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Postby Dean in Eureka, CA » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:56 pm

ktm_2000 wrote:I messed up the galvanized steel well from the pop-up trailer and am not very good with working metal. I'm thinking of putting a solid piece of 2x12 with the wheelwell cut out in it. I have no clue as to what would survive inside the wheelwell.

I say contact your local hvac/sheetmetal shop and ask if they have a set of slip rolls. If so, they could easily roll up new ones for you and the price wouldn't be major.
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Postby ktm_2000 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:30 pm

I updated my profile, I live in Worcester MA.

Hopefully I can get a day that it doesn't rain and I can get out of work so I can do some more work on this thing. It has rained at my house all but 2 days out of the last 2 weeks and maybe 4 days out of the last month.
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Postby ktm_2000 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:35 pm

This working for a living gets in the way of building a camper :(

we got the right side done, We went with the front window placement which my wife chose and I think it is a little to high, what do you all think?

sorry about the poor pic, my crackberry doesn't take good pics at night.

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Postby del » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:50 pm

ktm_2000 wrote:This working for a living gets in the way of building a camper :(

we got the right side done, We went with the front window placement which my wife chose and I think it is a little to high, what do you all think?

sorry about the poor pic, my crackberry doesn't take good pics at night.

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The true test of window placement is when you are done, standing inside, looking out the window. Walls standing is a good feeling.

Looks good
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Postby Ron Dickey » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:11 am

What a wonderful History pc this site is.
We have been talking Teardrop trailers and have now moved on to Canned Hams in miniture.
There are many small trailers here in California I have shots of lots of them and will include them in my Gallery update.
I always like the Wildgoose design being both worlds Teardrop and stand up.
Mike Started with his Benroy and now has kept the basic design but in larged it.

I do not see modern designs here more an improvement of an old design gone better.

This site has brough back memories for me too. Of designs that were being made years ago and now an example of what was once done and to be improved on.

:applause: Good job :thumbsup: Mike

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Postby BillandMarijo » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:19 pm

del wrote:
ktm_2000 wrote:This working for a living gets in the way of building a camper :(

we got the right side done, We went with the front window placement which my wife chose and I think it is a little to high, what do you all think?

sorry about the poor pic, my crackberry doesn't take good pics at night.

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The true test of window placement is when you are done, standing inside, looking out the window. Walls standing is a good feeling.

Looks good
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Very nice cant wait to see more pics.
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Postby ktm_2000 » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:56 pm

Some more progress....

Exterior sides have been installed, electrical wiring, styrofoam insulation, side panels have been glassed, old pop-up frame sanded down and primed.

Here's some pics from saturday's glassing session:
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Comments on Ideas.

Postby Wild Bill » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:04 pm

I think that cooking and trying to shower in such a small space is not practical. I have an old popup with a stove and I think I have cooked inside 1 or 2 times in the last 10 years. I like the idea of a rear galley to stand and cook in the rear. Possible pass thru for plates or coffee to someone inside. The canned ham profile is more retro, but seems to waste a lot of potential usuable storage space. An outside shower tent when no showers are available and a pump, storage tank, and hose to connect to your shower tent. I plan to use a 10 gallon plastic tank painted flat black and exposed to the sun to warm the water. Small 12v demand water pump and possible shower set up under the galley roof with a detachable tarp curtain? I agree, most places have shower houses, a place to hide the porta potty is a great idea. Just my 2 cents worth. Would be kinda neat to catch the rain run off to refill the shower tank. That may be a tough thing to engineer, really do not want to carry too much water at a time because of the weight of it. Bill
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Well, well, well...

Postby ajricher » Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:41 am

ktm_2000 wrote:
I messed up the galvanized steel well from the pop-up trailer and am not very good with working metal. I'm thinking of putting a solid piece of 2x12 with the wheelwell cut out in it. I have no clue as to what would survive inside the wheelwell.




KTM, send me a PM. I live in Chelmsford, and have a good amount of experience in metalworking (welders, tools and the like). If that wheel well is not too messed up we can likely fix it.

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from a woman's viewpoint....

Postby UtahTabby » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:54 am

I noticed it's mostly men on this subject, so here is my take on things. The teardrop designs are cute but I camp mostly alone (but with my fierce elderly dog) while my husband is off golfing or fishing. If I'm in a campground with drunk psychos, I would rather be in a trailer with all the facilities on board instead of a 'back hatch' out-door cooking thing. Also if it is cold early in the morning and I am hungry, or don't want to get dressed first, or I 'think' I hear BEARS outside, I'd rather have a canned ham-type trailer. Even though I think the teardrops are 'so cute!' -- I am looking for an old Shasta-type trailer to rebuild, or maybe make one from scratch while my husband is not looking, since he thinks bigger is better. We started out with a 19 foot cutie with our 8 kids, traded up to 22 foot boring generic TT, then we found a deal on a 27 foot monster that we can't seem to be able to back up into tight spaces very well. There is a lot of shouting, ok? And now only 1 kid is left at home, so I am thinking it is time to DOWN- SIZE. But I like the plans with everything inside, and if you men are camping with wives and go off fishing, do you really want her getting out to cook, or having to walk to a campground bathroom by herself? Or guys driving by noticing a woman by herself -- there are a lot of scary people out there, especially with the economy, drifters are camping more, and now a lot of bears are around for some reason. We saw one on our last trip across the stream, luckily there were people camping closer to it then we were....you only have to out-run the slowest person you are camping with. Just some 'food-for-thought' for you guys building your teardrops/TT's. :thinking: Tabby
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Re: from a woman's viewpoint....

Postby JenniferandPups » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:48 am

UtahTabby wrote:I noticed it's mostly men on this subject, so here is my take on things. The teardrop designs are cute but I camp mostly alone (but with my fierce elderly dog) while my husband is off golfing or fishing. If I'm in a campground with drunk psychos, I would rather be in a trailer with all the facilities on board instead of a 'back hatch' out-door cooking thing. Also if it is cold early in the morning and I am hungry, or don't want to get dressed first, or I 'think' I hear BEARS outside, I'd rather have a canned ham-type trailer. Even though I think the teardrops are 'so cute!' -- I am looking for an old Shasta-type trailer to rebuild, or maybe make one from scratch while my husband is not looking, since he thinks bigger is better. We started out with a 19 foot cutie with our 8 kids, traded up to 22 foot boring generic TT, then we found a deal on a 27 foot monster that we can't seem to be able to back up into tight spaces very well. There is a lot of shouting, ok? And now only 1 kid is left at home, so I am thinking it is time to DOWN- SIZE. But I like the plans with everything inside, and if you men are camping with wives and go off fishing, do you really want her getting out to cook, or having to walk to a campground bathroom by herself? Or guys driving by noticing a woman by herself -- there are a lot of scary people out there, especially with the economy, drifters are camping more, and now a lot of bears are around for some reason. We saw one on our last trip across the stream, luckily there were people camping closer to it then we were....you only have to out-run the slowest person you are camping with. Just some 'food-for-thought' for you guys building your teardrops/TT's. :thinking: Tabby


Hmmm... I'm a woman, but I've never felt scared to walk to the bathroom or cook outside. I do have a TTT, but it's more for the dogs than anything. If there weren't dogs we'd probably have a teardrop! (But we'll never NOT have dogs).Then again, I tend to be "out there" with my husband, fishing or hiking or whatever.

Now, I was the main impetus behind the portapotty in the TTT's closet... but just because I'm lazy and hate squatting to pee 5 times a day!

Good luck building (or restoring) your TTT! I do like the TTT layout/flexibility of space. You could LIVE in one of these!
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Re: Comments on Ideas.

Postby moreforles » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:23 pm

Wild Bill wrote:I think that cooking and trying to shower in such a small space is not practical. An outside shower tent when no showers are available and a pump, storage tank, and hose to connect to your shower tent. I plan to use a 10 gallon plastic tank painted flat black and exposed to the sun to warm the water. Small 12v demand water pump and possible shower set up under the galley roof with a detachable tarp curtain? I agree, most places have shower houses, a place to hide the porta potty is a great idea. Just my 2 cents worth. Would be kinda neat to catch the rain run off to refill the shower tank. That may be a tough thing to engineer, really do not want to carry too much water at a time because of the weight of it. Bill


agree its not exactly practical, but handy when shower facilities are not available... hopefully shower space can be used for storage when not in use... I was thinking about ABS tubing on roof of camper (or my astro van camper) also as far as shower for astro van, think of some type of slide out (out the back doors) shower tent/stall, which won't use any/much interior space when not in use and extend usable space once parked.... as far as trailer is concerned, maybe just a large shower area, maybe with some movable shelves to make space usable when not being used to shower in.... along with chemical toilet that slides out into shower area, allowing it to be used as bathroom area even when not being used as a shower...
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Postby GPW » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:20 am

Had much time to think about the shower bits ... With most areas ,campgrounds, truck stops, etc. offering shower facilities.. it would seem to be an unnecessary luxury, that takes up valuable space , best used for other more necessary items... I eat my former words :o
Porta potty , however is nice and seems like always a good thing to have around(especially for the Ladies).. no need for a room devoted to it though... I've reconsidered my previous drawings , and taken a much simpler standy approach ... no shower, more storage ...

I maintain a TT primarily for Hurricane evacuation ... camping then becomes living in a friends driveway or backyard for an extended period of time ... Easy to pop inside and use the shower/ facilities , when everybody's gone off to work ... time sharing ... Works great for us... Well practiced...
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Postby KDOG » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:19 pm

Wow. Been awhile since I've been here. Nothing new, huh? Guess everyones' closed up for the winter.
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Re: from a woman's viewpoint....

Postby Miriam C. » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:59 pm

UtahTabby wrote:I noticed it's mostly men on this subject, so here is my take on things. The teardrop designs are cute but I camp mostly alone (but with my fierce elderly dog) while my husband is off golfing or fishing. If I'm in a campground with drunk psychos, I would rather be in a trailer with all the facilities on board instead of a 'back hatch' out-door cooking thing. Also if it is cold early in the morning and I am hungry, or don't want to get dressed first, or I 'think' I hear BEARS outside, I'd rather have a canned ham-type trailer. Even though I think the teardrops are 'so cute!' -- I am looking for an old Shasta-type trailer to rebuild, or maybe make one from scratch while my husband is not looking, since he thinks bigger is better. We started out with a 19 foot cutie with our 8 kids, traded up to 22 foot boring generic TT, then we found a deal on a 27 foot monster that we can't seem to be able to back up into tight spaces very well. There is a lot of shouting, ok? And now only 1 kid is left at home, so I am thinking it is time to DOWN- SIZE. But I like the plans with everything inside, and if you men are camping with wives and go off fishing, do you really want her getting out to cook, or having to walk to a campground bathroom by herself? Or guys driving by noticing a woman by herself -- there are a lot of scary people out there, especially with the economy, drifters are camping more, and now a lot of bears are around for some reason. We saw one on our last trip across the stream, luckily there were people camping closer to it then we were....you only have to out-run the slowest person you are camping with. Just some 'food-for-thought' for you guys building your teardrops/TT's. :thinking: Tabby


Wow just caught up with this. Now I fish and I leave my better half to read a lot......He wanted room for a porta-potty cause he didn't want to have to get out on a rainy night to escort and he is the escorting type.......I also am not running up to the shower house without being sure of my surroundings. I can also be quite lazy if the showers are a long way away. I solved my problem with a bit more height and space.......
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