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Saw this on Facebook

Postby RonS » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:33 pm

A friend of mine shared this on Facebook. I've passed on a couple horse trailers I saw for sale, now I'm kinda wishing I'd have grabbed one. With all the cargo trailer conversions here, I figured some would appreciate this one.
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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby GPW » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:20 am

I’ll bet the Horse really likes it !!! 8)
Ron , our neighborhood is full of cool horse trailers … Many times that thought of a conversion has crossed our mind , but a good Horse trailer can be PRICY … The ones I can afford , even the horse woudn’t like … :R
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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Tom&Shelly » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:59 am

Wow!

That's a horse trailer of a different color!

I really like the interior woodwork.

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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Padilen » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:29 am

I saw this on Facebook. It should be removed, or title How not to.Image

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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby KTM_Guy » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:45 am

Padilen wrote:I saw this on Facebook. It should be removed, or title How not to.Image

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Thats a head scratcher. :?
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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Philip » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:00 am

That trailer looks nice. But I have towed one of those trailers. They are very heavy. A 3/4 ton truck is a lite tow vehicle for them. A dually is better.

Now if you build one in lighter materials I don't know if I would want anything smaller than a pickup to tow it due to overall size and wind drag.

The pic of that electric panel. About all I can say is slap that person and walk off.
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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Padilen » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:30 am

I wanted to get a used all aluminum horse trailer to convert to a toy hauler. The newer single or double horse with tack room. Lots of ideas for them. Pluses, already have windows, strong walls /roof.




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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Treeview » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:09 am

Ok...I don’t get the joke. Maybe the small screen on my phone makes the electrical punchline hard to see

What am I missing?

On the small screen it looks like a panel in a house or garage. I guess not...
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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Padilen » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:19 am

Treeview wrote:Ok...I don’t get the joke. Maybe the small screen on my phone makes the electrical punchline hard to see

What am I missing?

On the small screen it looks like a panel in a house or garage. I guess not...

No it's in a cargo trailer. It's post in Facebook Cargo Conversions. I'm on a phone too.
First thing I saw was the double breaker. Second thing was the neutral and ground together.
Third was the white neutral wire that looks like it's the cord wire. Is connected to the last breaker.
I'm not an electrician but none of that looks right.
And I have questions about my own set up!

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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby KTM_Guy » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:41 am

Neutral and ground together is normal. Some panels have them separate just to add more places to terminate wires with when using romex.

But breaker 1 of the 2-pole has two black wires coming out of it one is from the SO cord (probably the feed in) and one that runs to breaker #4. :?

I have no clue what the white wire is doing.

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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby GTS225 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:33 pm

It looks to me like the hot from the SO cord is supplying one "leg" of the 240V panel, but going through the breaker backwards. The neutral from the SO cord appears to be tied into the bottom of that last breaker, but the angle is bad. It could be terminated on a lug. (That lug position would suggest the other
"leg" of the 240V panel.) The ground wire termination looks OK, as well as the branch circuit neutral and ground terminations on the bus bar. What that wire from the bottom of breaker 1, to the bottom of breaker 4 is doing, is unknown. I can only speculate that they're back-feeding power to the second "leg" of the panel.
Either way, the entire thing is unacceptable. Common practice is power in the top, and out the bottom.
Hmmmmm. I wonder if they're using the white as the second leg of the 240V, and that's why it appears to terminate at the bottom of the last breaker? If so, that's a "fail", in big, capital letters three feet tall. The white wire is used as a neutral, and nothing else, with the exception of feeding a wall switch from a ceiling box.

It appears that things would work, the way it's wired, but it's still wrong.

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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Tom&Shelly » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:44 pm

Really--it's okay to tie neutral and ground together at the breakers on the trailer? I would think that should be done at the pedestal, where the neutral is tied to Earth ground, and no where else. Just like with a house.

Also, I'm pretty sure it's against code to double up wires on that sort of bus bar. Agree with all the other comments--it'll work until it kills someone.

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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Padilen » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:04 pm

Here's a funny one.
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Re: Saw this on Facebook

Postby Tom&Shelly » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:19 pm

Padilen wrote:Here's a funny one.
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Hmm, I can tell he wants to solve this problem in the worst way possible. That way would probably be to cut the plate up with a band saw, and glue it back together (rearranged) with epoxy (or maybe airplane glue). :lol:

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