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Is solar or juice even nessary to camp???..

Postby slowcowboy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:50 am

So, kinda a poll..just a new thread on how much of a power hog are you ? How many camp with just flashlights..no drop cords??....and how many re charge from there tow vehicle..how many use gennys......lets discuss juice here.....how many of us rare ones camp with flash lights.use vintage white gas and avoid solar panels and massive portable power plants styems?????....time to poll and discuss electrity while camping...slowcowboy.
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Re: Is solar or juice even nessary to camp???..

Postby greygoos » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:29 am

I use a cpap to sleep so it is a must for me. As long as I am bringing power for the cpap machine I might as well use it for lighting as well as a fan.
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Postby Sparksalot » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:52 am

When my 90Ah battery croaked last year, I replaced it with a massive 35Ah unit. I use it for LED cabin lights and maybe a ceiling fan. I'm setup to charge while towing. I can also plug in a small solar panel if I choose. I had no problems off grid at WTW last year for 4 days.

In Texas the state parks all have shore power. I use that to power a microwave and TV/DVD player. Not a must have for camping, just an option I can use if I want.
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Postby Aguyfromohio » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:37 am

Of course you are right, Slo. No electrical power is required to enjoy camping out in nature.
But I personally prefer a few conveniences.

Some years ago a friend invited me to take a week fishing with his group in canoes through the boundary waters, he knew I had a history of flying in to remote Canadian cabins to fish. After some thinking I declined his offer. It was just too primitive for my taste, lightweight backpackers gear, freeze dried food, tiny one man tents, long hard portages ...

There is a wide spectrum of camping styles, and we campers seem to all be stepping up to the very same central challenge: How little a pile of gear can we bring and still enjoy being out in nature?

At one end are rock climbers who sleep on a sheer rock face, and backpackers on the Appalachian trail for months on end. They shave weight a half ounce at a time, minimize all material pleasures, and they truly love the idea of getting by with nearly nothing, free as a bird. At the other end are the folks in luxury fifth wheels and class A diesel pushers, who are delighted that they've managed to bring a full Hilton hotel room to the lake shore with a spectacular view, and really love a gourmet meal eaten outside looking at mountain glaciers. And they are very happy they can still catch tonight's game on a big flat screen by satellite.

To each his own. I like some LED lights, an electric coffee maker, a comfy bed and an air conditioner. Sit by a fire but cook with a propane stove and oven.
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Postby Lucky J » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:14 am

We now travel with a T@G outback trailer.

But I xould still get out on a multi day kayak trip. I still have my backpacking gear, and it will probably leave in my will.

I have never been a fan of freeze dry food, actually never used it, except maybe for the fun of it, like trying the astronaute Ice cream. I alsways try to get by with as little light as I can, even while seting up camp.

We have the Tv and DVD player in the TD, but I think we used it like 3 or 4 times in two years. Never used the radio nore bluetooth speakers inclueded

To me, the real purpose of power is mostly fridge. Not a fan of cooler since we got our ARB fridge.

What we really like about the T@G, quick set-up at camp. We are mostly on the move, so never a big set-up to organize.

And no christmas/patio lights.
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Postby twisted lines » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:30 am

I have been a pickup camper roughing it for almost 30 years, traveling to the Oregon coast for the sand dunes, or fishing, the nicety's I had were in the back of a truck sometimes with two quads, not much room for a week.
It's time for a change; but the only thing I have so far is a marinco 15 Amp plug, and wire for a wall's, I don't have yet :lol:
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Postby lfhoward » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:49 pm

I camped for years with a tent and no electricity so I would say no juice needed! But now that I'm over 40 I like to have a few conveniences too.

120vac gives me electric heat for winter camping. That's about all I need it for. In the summer I don't use campground electrical.

12vdc is what my trailer runs on most of the time, with a solar panel on the roof so it's usually self sufficient unless it's under trees. I charge my phone and gps, run a fantastic fan, and sometimes an electric blanket. I have about 240 amp hours (when the 3 batteries were new) so that I could stay out boondocking for a week at a time. A 12 volt fridge is a future idea for my wish list.
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Postby Modstock » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:16 pm

Gone without power pretty much all of my camping.
Now I have shore power only for heat or a fan.
Cant justify the cost of rv 12 volt battery vs. AAA's for puck lights.

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Postby Shadow Catcher » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:48 pm

Yes you can, the Coleman lantern the three burner Preway stove all bought by my parents 90 years ago, they still work well. Compass Rose has a 185 W high voltage solar panel that powers the Waeco refrigerator, lights, XM radio, TV/DVD, cell booster, and a charger for the flashlight batteries. I have camped since I was three, comfortable with less work leaves time for more fun.
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Postby swoody126 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:54 am

greygoos wrote:I use a cpap to sleep so it is a must for me. As long as I am bringing power for the cpap machine I might as well use it for lighting as well as a fan.


i also sleep w/ a CPAP machine

mine by design can be run off a dedicated battery which can be recharged during the day

i can recharge off solar, 12vDC(several days from static F-350 diesel pick up or forever while running down the road) & 120vAC

i do carry a long 120vAC string for convenience

personal issues make electjuicity necessary for life butt none needed otherwise though some is handy at times for conveniences(i can/have gone a week w/o refrigeration and been quite well fed n happy)

more important FOR ME is a heat source for my coffee ;-)

i've tent camped forever and no electjuicity was needed prior to the CPAP issue

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Postby Esteban » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:47 pm

"is solar or juice even nessary to camp???..."

I reframed Slow's question to ask: Is solar power or electricity useful for camping?

Yes it is. Solar generated electrical power can be usefully, desirably, economically, and reasonably used for camping.

Solar powered lights are readily available. Luci Lights from Amazon.com sell for under $15 apiece. There are many similar solar powered lights. Using a solar powered light is convenient and will save you from the ongoing cost of disposable batteries or kerosene for flashlights and/or lanterns. Its also more environmentally friendly.

LED lights use much less electricity than incandescent light builds. You might buy and use a LED Rechargeable Headlamp while camping. Or install LED lights in your teardrop. I bought LED light fixtures for the cabin and galley of my teardrop from marinebeam.com/led-lighting.

Many, if not most, teardrop trailers have a battery in them to power lights, an overhead fan, etc. The battery may also provide power to 12 volt outlets that can recharge portable devices like a cell phone, camera, or portable LED lights. Or a CPAP breathing device as others previously mentioned.

A solar panel can recharge a teardrop trailers battery so you can camp, or boondock, longer. Solar power can free you from the need for a generator or shore power. It can lower camping fees for un-powered campsites. Or make free boondocking more easily feasible.

A high enough capacity solar panel, or several solar panels, may even enable you to use an AC/DC fridge/freezer instead of an ice chest and ice. A 12 volt powered fridge/freezer would enable a longer and more enjoyable camping experience. You could enjoy Cold Adult Beverages, milk, juices, butter, meats, fruits, vegetables, a variety of fresh or prepared food you can eat while camping for longer away from home, stores or restaurants, etc.

A nice "luxury" would be to have enough solar power to recharge a teardrop's battery well enough to use a 12 volt fridge/freezer, lights, ventilation, and outlets for recharging portable devices, etc.
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Re: Is solar or juice even nessary to camp???..

Postby slowcowboy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:39 pm

Well, coleman and flashlights have served me well for years i no longer take my battery with me in my teardrop. It normaly stays in one of my boats..i have not camped with any power in nearly 3 years..cant say I even need it for lights any more.. i got as a,coleman collector 10 or so lanterns and a propane one to go on a propane tree..i found out my teardrops so Insulated 3 quilts works and sleeping in my clothes for heat,.. so I no longer run my 12 volt blanket at nights or my 12 volt heater..i re- charge my phone from my truck or a small solar back packing charger.. I have no need to camp with tv's or radios..boil my coffee the old way so yup,.. no juice needed for java..so I am debating wether I needed it or not for my 2 build...slow..
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Postby slowcowboy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:41 pm

I mean it's not like a chuckwagen or ranch cooks use juice out there cooking on the range ether or in a hunting camp really..you can whip up a huge feast practly electric free..slow..
Plans. there was supposed to be plans to be followed when I built this thing. Opps! AH, gee, tum,tee tum. I think I forgot about the plans 2 years ago. ------Tow vehicles, 1995 ford explore, 1994 ford ranger, 1993 ford F-150, 2009 4x9 Off road teardrop, on harbor freight greatly modified frame.
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Postby slowcowboy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:46 pm

I even blow up my float tube for fishing from my trucks lighter so I found out I was not even useing my battery and it was heavy so I stsrted leaving it in my truck and only useing it in my boats to run my trolling motor..if it goes camping with me the battery just stays in my jon boat the hole trip. I don't even bother at nights puting it in my tear for lights...slow..
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Postby Jocasta » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:11 pm

I try to keep it as simple as I can, shore power for the ac. Battery op led lights, cell phone for music, single butane stove in my little tear. Camping in the south, sc and NC, and ga, too hot without ac. Adding a solar panel and battery next year to a new build for a fantastic fan and better lighting.. :D
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