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Metal Studs

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:29 pm
by ferbal
Has anyone used metal studs for framing? I was wandering around Home Depot came across metal studs. They are clearly labeled non structural but the weight savings might be considerably and I am thinking rust vs rot would need exploration but cost and function makes metal studs seem viable. Anybody use these for framing?


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Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:57 pm
by Shadow Catcher
The framing on ours is 1"X1.5"X .06 aluminum tube.

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:11 pm
by tony.latham
ferbal wrote:Has anyone used metal studs for framing? I was wandering around Home Depot came across metal studs. They are clearly labeled non structural but the weight savings might be considerably and I am thinking rust vs rot would need exploration but cost and function makes metal studs seem viable. Anybody use these for framing?


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Assuming you are contemplating sandwiched walls for a teardrop, the internal skeleton shouldn't way more than twenty pounds. A sandwiched wall that has wood sheathing glued to both sides makes for an incredibly strong system.

And twenty pounds (x 2) isn't a lot of weight for a camper that is going to weigh north of a thousand pounds.

But there are lots of ways to build a 'drop.

Tony

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:37 pm
by linuxmanxxx
If you turned them sideways and alternated the flat face in and out I think they'd be great to use and 3/4 foam doubled would match the width. Hard anchor points pretty much resistant so kudos for an out of the box idea for building.

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Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:19 am
by ferbal
linuxmanxxx wrote:If you turned them sideways and alternated the flat face in and out I think they'd be great to use and 3/4 foam doubled would match the width. Hard anchor points pretty much resistant so kudos for an out of the box idea for building.

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I was thinking on flat would be the way to go and then pop rivet metal siding directly to them put in a layer of foam and then my interior paneling. My other concern as I toy with the idea of metal outer skin is that if I go with aluminum would I have to worry about galvanic corrosion?


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Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:03 am
by aggie79
I have contemplated the use of metal studs but can't seem to find a "work around" for how to smoothly attach a metal skin to the overlaps and fasteners used to assemble a metal stud frame. I guess you could build some sort of jig to hold the frame members in place and butt joint the intersections rather than overlap, and don't have any fasteners in the framing. Then you could overlay the skin and rivet it to the frame members.

I'm with Tony. Seems like a lot of work compared to plywood framing with very little weight savings. Also, I guess it can be done, but a curved profile would be difficult to do.

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:16 am
by tony.latham
...is that if I go with aluminum would I have to worry about galvanic corrosion?


Absolutely. None of the steel could touch the aluminum. And I think the fasteners would be an issue too since they would be bonding both materials.

Tony

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:40 am
by tony.latham
Creating skeletons for sandwiched walls from plywood is easy. I screw two sheets together and gang-cut with a jigsaw. After I've got them laid out (note the pattern on the wall––that's the key) they're ready for the skins and insulation in less than an hour.

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Tony

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:54 am
by John61CT
Aluminum and steel work together just fine, done all the time in modern vehicles & trailers, very very common.

Many ways to put a barrier to prevent the galvanic reaction, often just a good strong paint will do.

Dielectric insulation is what you look for, polypropylene tape, plastic washers, gaskets, and sleeves for fasteners.

Boats make use of sacrificial anodes.

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:08 am
by aggie79
When considering construction methods/approaches, I would ask these questions:

1. Are the construction materials I am thinking about using readily available?
2. Are the construction materials I am thinking about using reasonably affordable?
3. Do I have the skills to fabricate the materials I am thinking about using?
4. Do I have the tools tools to fabricate the materials I am thinking about using?
5. If I am thinking about using atypical construction materials and methods, what are the costs and benefits compared to typical construction materials and methods?

Re: Metal Studs

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:25 pm
by Projector
Well, without knowing what I was doing, I built this framed with metal studs.
Since I didn't know what I was doing, I doubled up the studs placing one inside the other and used self tapping screws to bind them together making them solid. Skinned it with corrugated steel panels.
A real HF+ HD special. :D
Came out pretty strong, weight? Don't know.
Went cross country with it twice and it held together so I considered it a success.

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