I hate to even ask this????

[kirtsjc]

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[b][i][color=darkblue]Now I'm really confused. When did you say you were headed back to the farm?

Uh... i HAVE been back on the farm as of late - THEY just keep coming after me when i LEAVE the farm...

WHOO HOO Here they come again!!!

[Gage]

The SoCal Teardrop hinge looks very interesting and clean as a door hinge but my concern is that over time it would want to drop. They look like very good quality trailers so I would think this is not a problem.

Hope to get a good look at it next Saturday. Maybe you could replace the rubber end piece with a hardwood piece of the same shape. I'm thinking simple.

Have a good day.

[Darren]

This...

looks like the same as this to me...

but what do I know.
Didn't see SoCal's mention weight. Just trying to give out the options incase is all, cuz I had seen it before.

It looks to me that the 2 hinges operate 180 degree from each other, look at the gear pattern. This image shows how the framing is setup for the Mcmaster hinge.

[s4son]

So now I'm confused ( no jokes please, it will only confuse me more). Can these type hinges be used in the vetical position? They would really make for a clean looking door installation.

Scott F.

By the way, I'm a city boy but I've been to the farm a time or two (or three or four or ..........)

[madjack]

Scott, I think the hinge that the SoCal guys are using is purpose built specifically for them and as such the McMaster-Carr info doesn't apply...for more specific info on it and it's applications you should contact them directly, especially since no one here (that I am aware of) has actually used one in their build
madjack

[jje507]

Just wanted to throw another cat into the confusion!
http://www.crlaurence.com/ProductPages/showLine.asp?GroupID=8217&Path=::4939::3463::8217
Jeff

[Micro469]

Just wanted to throw another cat into the confusion!
http://www.crlaurence.com/ProductPages/showLine.asp?GroupID=8217&Path=::4939::3463::8217
Jeff

Wow Thanks man,, They are located just down the street, never knew they were there!!!

[Woodbutcher]

Well after all the comments on this thread on decided to call So-Cal today. I talked with Mike and he was very helpful. The same hinge can be used for both hatch and doors. You just cut each leg of the hinge to your wall/door thickness. Sagging of the doors has not been a problem. This seems to be the cleanest looking hinge to me and the fact that it is installed like a Butt hinge appeals to me. So that said, I am going to use this hinge in my build. So I guess I will be one of the first Guinea Pigs on the board.

[mbader]

And here is the place that makes them:
http://www.hagerhinge.com/catalog/default.asp?c=25

[Gage]

So now I'm confused ( no jokes please, it will only confuse me more). Can these type hinges be used in the vetical position? They would really make for a clean looking door installation.
Scott F.
By the way, I'm a city boy but I've been to the farm a time or two (or three or four or ..........)

Say Scott, I'll let you know next year. I plan on using that hinge on my doors and hatch. What I plan on doing about the door hinges is to replace the rubber bushing/plug with a hardwood plug that would act as a stop for downward movement. BUT, that's what I've come up with by just looking at the pictures. Haven't seen an actual one yet. So that plan may change.

Have a good day.

[angib]

And here is the place that makes them:
http://www.hagerhinge.com/catalog/default.asp?c=25

Very useful link - it answers the question that's been plaguing me - why doesn't the door leaf just slide out of the frame leaf when the door's open?

It turns out there are bearings, spaced at 3"-10" centres depending of the hinge duty, along the hinge. I'm guessing at these locations the 'gears' of both leaves are cut away and a bearing block inserted before the hinge cover is slid on. This means the two leaves cannot slide along each other.
Is that clear? I will be asking questions at the end.....

Andrew

[kirtsjc]

- it answers the question that's been plaguing me - why doesn't the door leaf just slide out of the frame leaf when the door's open?

It turns out there are bearings, spaced at 3"-10" centres depending of the hinge duty, along the hinge. I'm guessing at these locations the 'gears' of both leaves are cut away and a bearing block inserted before the hinge cover is slid on. This means the two leaves cannot slide along each other.
Is that clear? I will be asking questions at the end. Andrew

Thank you Angib/Andrew for digging into and finding this crucial information. I can see where SoCal, limiting their production to a hatch hinge would/might have problems with vertical. But Hagerhinge is designed for vertical 1 3/4" thick doors (which can be very heavy), and thus we just might be able to get SoCal to carry a line of vertical hinges now too!!!! (Hint Hint to SoCal) Thus, everybody that wants a cool/kewl geared hinge can win, and SoCal can win by being a specialized distributor!


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[dglenn1960]

I have a Roton hinge on my back French doors (for the past 20+ years) and have not seen any sagging or other issues. It's a very high quality piece, though with our door you can see the bearing placements every 10" or so when the door is fully open.

~dave