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Comparing Hunter and Camp-Inn Galleys

Postby campadk » Wed May 26, 2004 3:21 pm

I receive a few emails every week about our trailer. Many people asking about the Hunter trailers vs the Camp-Inn. I have tried to provide as much info as possible but was wondering if any owners who have had both trailers can provide some input here, specifically comparing layout and usage of the galley.

The Camp-Inn has a lot of storage in the galley but the stove area is set back somewhat which I think might be a bit more dangerous and awkward to use. Somehow they do pack a lot in the Camp-Inn galley though and it does seem to be quite functional. Does anyone have a photo of their Camp-Inn galley in 'cookin' mode? Would love to see it! Any comments from those who owned both or a Camp-Inn owners experience.

Here is our Hunter in use...

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Here is our modification plans for a built in cooler to maximize space plus add drawers for storage...

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I've had both!

Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 3:41 pm

I had a Hunter Shadow, and now I have a Camp-Inn 550 Classic. In my experience and in my own personal view, I consider the Camp-Inn's galley to be superior.

The stove being in the back hasn't caused me any concern because they have grease guards and I haven't heard of any trouble with it.

On my Hunter, the stove placement was nice, but the storage factor was bad. I see you've modified yours to help with the storage issues, and that's good. Mine was a basic model with no add-ons or upgrades, and I found the storage to be far from adequate. I'd have supplies on the counter, on top of the cooler (if it would fit) and sometimes wedged on top of the stove. Then to USE the galley, I'd have to put all that stuff somewhere else so i could cook and use the counter space. It became so much of a pain in the butt that I'd stop cooking and literally survive on sandwhiches so that i wouldn't have to clear the galley to cook all the time.

On the Camp-Inn, everything can be stored below the counter or in the silverware tray or in the little cubby hole to the side. Small things can be stored on top of the cubby and silverware trays. To cook, all i have to do is pull out the cooler, pull out the stove, and cook. Much less work to prepare to cook than with my Hunter. And again, i don't feel that the stove placement is unsafe. Camp-Inn has not received any complaints of stove danger or of fires, and they have done a very good job in protecting the back and sides of the galley to protect from grease splashing.

I'll go take a couple pics of my galley for you right now. Did you put the pics in your personal gallery, then link them to the message to get the pics inside the message? I'll try to post the pics in a few minutes.

Hope this helps for whoever was requesting comparisons!
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Postby campadk » Wed May 26, 2004 3:56 pm

Great sftiggee!

True we lack storage for pots and pans and such. We mainly want some drawers and such for utensils, salt and pepper, popane bottles and such as well as a larger cooler. Actually the 'concept' photo doesn't include some mods for storage which we will add at the back of the upper shelf.

I like having the removable water jug (easy to use and fill). We have always washed dishs in a wash bin on the picnic table for years, so a sink wasn't in our wish list, but is probably nice.

If the Camp-Inn is 8ft in length with 78" of sleeping area, its hard to figure out were all that space is coming from! Is yours 4x8 or 5x8?

I've seen lots of photos on the Camp-Inn site, but 'real life' usage is the real test I suppose.

I LOVED those teardrop front windows... do you have them?

I just embedded those photos from our website. I've only uploaded a few to Mikes site. I have lots more in our Photo Gallery on campadk.com (see my sig).
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Pics of Camp-Inn galley (I hope)

Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 4:03 pm

Here are the pics I just took of my trailer. This is the best I can do for comparison's sake until I go out camping again.

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ok, hope that helps
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Postby campadk » Wed May 26, 2004 4:08 pm

Great! So is that storage on the right? Yours must be the 5ft wide version then. I gather the galley is identical on both the 4 and 5ft versions, except that storage box isn't there on the 4ft model.

What is the depth from the front of the galley (back of trailer) to the back wall of the galley?

Neat the wall the stove slides out from the left.. great idea!
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Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 4:10 pm

OK, the photos didn't work :( But I did put them on yahoo, and opened it to the public, so go here:

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sftigg ... 0b&.src=ph

The removable water jug is a nice idea. On my Hunter, that space had a cabinet, and the battery compartment was right next to it, so it became a sort of useless space.

The sink wasn't necessarily on my wish list either, but its neat to have and I'll use it mostly for fiulling up pots with what I know to be drinkable water. I'll probably still do my dishes in a dishpan on the table adn then perhaps rinse them in my sink.

As for the size, i have the 550, so its a 5X8. AS for how they crammed in all that storage in the back, they went depthwise, with all the storage underneath. Great idea to have those bins, i think. The concept shot of your trailer is nice, and any extra storage in those Hunters is a God send. i ended up cursing at the lack of storage my Hunter provided, and I'd have stuff at my feet when I slept because I had nowhere else to put it except the car.

Yes, I do have the front windows:) i Love those too and jsut had to get them. They are situated so perfectly that you can lay inside and look up and see STARS! :) I LOVE THAT :)
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Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 4:19 pm

Yeah, that is a small storage cubby to the right, and the silverware drawer is on the left. They up above of both those, you can store short things. The galley depth is 31 inches. When you look inside the cabin, what they did was put cabinets in there against the galley wall, then they show the gaqlley wall a bit underneath with the power panel, then footroom continues underneath. The best way I can describe it is that the footroom (mattress) goes intot he galley somewhat, underneath the stove area and stops where the counter (sink) starts.
so its not a straight wall down for the cut off between galley and cabin. does that make sense? its kind of hard to explain without a ton of photos or just seeing it.

OK, i measured again, and from where the cabin REALLY stops to the back is actually 19 inches, so the cabin intrudes in a foot underneath the stove area. the 19 inches is where the storage bin wall is. make sense?
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Postby campadk » Wed May 26, 2004 4:20 pm

Ah yes.. thats the trick on the Hunter! Remove that second door and the Reliant water jug fits in perfectly!

Did you use the under mattress storage in your Hunter? I hinged the two under mattress panels together so we simply lift up under the matress to swing the panel up to access clothes and accessories. Not sure why they didn't have a hing already... mind you it is a bit awkward to access. That does helps with 'clutter' in the cabin though.

I'm curious about tongue weight on the Camp-Inn... with the large storage box and propane bottle, isn't it pretty heavy on the front? Especially since the wheels seem to be set very far back. This would make moving the trailer around more difficult. With more than 100lbs tongue weight, I find it more difficult to haul around the campsite into place and am considering replacing the removal wheel with a 2 wheel version.

Our Hunter was 95lbs tongue weight dry without the box we added on. Once the trailer is loaded it was up to about 125lbs (car/hitch is rated at 100lbs), so I've since started to store lighter items in the front box.
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Postby campadk » Wed May 26, 2004 4:26 pm

Ok about the distance.. I understand what your saying. It maximize usage between galley and cabin. Sounds like it might jut into the back of the cabin a bit more than the Hunter. Ours is the 10ft version so taking more space out of the cabin would have been ok.

I over analyze most things... before the final design for the mods I am taking an inventory of all the essentials we use to ensure each has their place... my wife tries not to pull her hair out too much :lol:
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Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 4:27 pm

I attemptted to use the underbed storage on the Hunter, but it was so awkward adn such a pain because they didn't have hinges and the panel would always fall in and I'd have to take stuff out of the cabin to get to it. At first I thought he underbed storage would be grea,t but after the first trip, I gave up and only stored emergency supplies such as raingear, extra towel, random tools.

Not sure what the tongue weight on my trailer is, but I think its something like 125-150 pounds. My hitch has a 200 pound tongue weight rating, so I'm still ok. Now, i don't seem to have any problems moving the trailer around the campsite on my own. I tend to manuever it around quite abit, and I've even pushed it up my driveway into the garage by myself too. It moves pretty easily actually. About the same as the Hunter in that department.

I tend to only store my EZ-Up side flaps and a couple pieces of wood for wheel blocks up in the lower front compartment. In the upper front compartment, i tend to just put clothes, and towels, lighter items. That front storage box is split into two sections, a lower section accessible from the outside, and an upper part accessible from the inside.
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Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 4:31 pm

campadk wrote:I over analyze most things... before the final design for the mods I am taking an inventory of all the essentials we use to ensure each has their place... my wife tries not to pull her hair out too much :lol:


Hehehe, i understand completely. Space is at such a premium that you'd want to ensure everything you need will fit well. I'd probably do the same thing.

The Hunter I had was the 8 foot model, not the 10, so i just didn't have much room period. Now that I've gone to 5 foot wide, i don't think i could ever go back to 4 footers. That extra foot makes all the difference in the world, i swear.
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Postby campadk » Wed May 26, 2004 5:09 pm

Guess we went the other way! 10ft long instead of 8ft and 4 ft instead of 5ft wide. 4ft is cozy (your in trouble if ya had a fight that day with the better half though!!) but we don't mind. As long as your get the extra room length or width wise... we checked out a 4x8 and that was pretty tight. The extra foot length or width was necessary.

I know what you mean about those underbunk panels in the Hunter. I was cursing too until I came up with the idea of using the piano hinges so they didn't fall into the area below when you lift up one side. I think a spring loaded device to hold them up when open would be great.. its on my mods list. They are great though for laying out all your clothes nice and neatly.

Certainly teardrop camping requires some organizational skills and planning otherwise you end up sleeping in a mess of crap!! :shock:

How do you like the holdup bar used in the Camp-Inn's galley? Can't tell how well that works. I like the Hunters locking side rigger setup... although I sometimes worry if I didn't push it up right, it might fall, although I must say this has never happened after about 40 nights of camping in it so far.
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My fianl Hunter/Camp-Inn comparison

Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 5:28 pm

Not to offend any Hunter owners on this board, and I say this ONLY because I've owned both. Comparing a Hunter and a Camp-Inn is like comparing a Festiva to a Caddy El Dorado.

The Hunter is good if you want basic functionality and don't want to or can't spend alot of money. Thanks to the Hunter I owned, I didn't spend alot of money for the experiment of seeing if I'd really love teardrop camping compared to the other types of camping I've done. Once it proved to me how much fun Teardrops were, I then decided to get the trailer I had been lusting over since first seeing - the Camp-Inn.

I had gone to the shop where they are made a full year before I purchased one, and I loved how it was a "homebuilt" approach. Just two guys making them in their garage. Real quality work. They have since expanded and added a cabinet maker guy and a couple others, but it's still at the guy's house, just a bigger shop.

Once I really started poking around my new Camp-Inn, thats when i noticed all the things that make it so much better and worth the higher price.

Sides: The sides are thicker (my Hunter sides were 1/4 inch plywood with aluminum, thats it). The Camp-Inn sides are 3/4 inch I believe, and I opted to stick with the beautiful woody sides.

The interior on the Camp-Inn is birch plywood, a nice light wood that makes the trailer seem more roomy and brighter. My Hunter had dark plywood and felt more closed in and cramped.

Ventilation: My Camp-Inn has a roof vent that functions really well and keeps condensate levels down to nil. The doors also have large windows that have screens and let alot of air flow through. The doors also have these tiny vents on them that are ALWAYS open, i guess to prevent and air tight cabin. They are covered in a way that no rain will get in them.

My Hunter was a condensate nightmare. I'd keep a towel with me to wipe down the windows AND the walls several times a night. The underneath storage would get condensate so bad I'd have puddles. Now puddles plus electrical conduit scares me. The "vent" was a large computer fan built into the back and pulled air into the galley. If the galley was closed, this air was then supposed to push out through this two tiny slatted vents on the sides. My computer fan was broken when I got it, and not worth repairing.

Doors: The doors on the Camp-Inn are also superior. They have a lip all the way around and a seal to keep out rain. The hinge is better as well. On my Hunter, the hinge was bad and the door kept wanting to open, not close. The doors were not seated right and when it rained while I was driving, I'd get rain inside my trailer and my bedding would be soaked. On the Camp-Inn, the doors close perfectly and I don't have any leakage.

One last thing on the doors: On the Camp-Inn, I can lock the doors from the inside, thus effectively locking myself in at night and feeling safer. i could not do that in the Hunter, and anyone could open my door when i was inside sleeping. That bothered me alot as well. Also, on my Hunter, some of the screws that held the door jam got stripped and fell out and the doors would pop open while driving. Very scary and not fun. Being that the doors were only a quarter inch plywood, it was impossible to fix that problem (for me, the nonwoodworking person) once it started.

Cabin storage: On the Camp-Inn, there are two cabinets towards the galley that hinge downwards and have cup holders built in, nice effect. The space behind these doors is connected, so you have a nice long space to store items. There is also a shelf above that, I beleive they call it a garmet bag shelf or luggage shelf. Works great once you get to your destination, but don't try to storage anything up there while en route, it will just fall off after a few curves and turns. There are also two swing open doors to access the front storage module, which is also a nice big space and very handy. i also opted for the under bed spare tire storage bin. I will use this only for emergency supples ( tools for changing a spare).

Hunter cabin storage: Hunter cabin storage on mine consisted of two shelves, the bottom one being slightly wider than the top one, but still pretty close together so larger items would not fit. There was also some storage underneath the bed, which was awkward to get to. That's it. it was lacking of good storage.

Galley: On the Camp-Inn, galley storage is superior. The sink with the water tank is a nice extra, but not a necessity for me. The undercounter storage is a MUST and I love it. There is even a frypan sleeve of sorts in one of the bins to keep fry pans from rattling around. There is a silverware tray that can be locked during transport and a supply cubby on the right that can also be locked. The counter is easy to clean and if you really get it messed up, the hinges on the storage bin covers come off for more thorough cleaning. The cooler has its space and is removed when you want to cook. This is the only issue I see with the Camp-Inn, when the cooler is full, it can be heavy, and is situated higher, so is more awkward to lift. The stove pulls out into the space occupied by the cooler and cooking is protected from wind. The sides surrounding the stove are aluminum and easy to wipe down after cooking. The stove is hard piped to a 10 gal. propane tank up front, so no bottles to carry around and hook up.

On the Hunter, storage is at a minimum. There is a space for the cooler on the bootm right, that makes pulling out the cooler easier than in the Camp-Inn. The stove is on a shelf that pulls out on the left, that's handy as well. That shelf will lock into place when not in use. The stove isn't protected much from wind, unless you have a canopy up and the bottled propane is a pain to situate. i tended to pull out my cooler a bit to sit the bottle on. I've noticed other peopel let it hang or rig up some contraption for it. As far as storage, there is a shelf in the back that is just wide enough for propane bottles to fit into. I kept my bottles there, as well as cups, spices, cooking spray, etc. Pans and pots tended to just sit on the counter and slide around during transport. Same with nonperishable food. Not much else for storage. There are a coupel of cubbys underneath ont eh left - one is for the battery, and one is for wahtever u want. I put my propane powered lantern under there, the box fit nicely.

Battery and power: On the Camp-Inn, the battery is in its own space on the right and is accessed through the right hand storage bin. There are a few fuses throughout the caamper that can be changed out easily. the battery has a built in charger and inverter, and you just plug in a power cord to the plug on the back underneath the rear light. The galley and cabin have both AC and 12 volt plugs - very handy.

On the Hunter, the battery is more easily accessible because its just in a cubby underneath the stove. It does have to be pulled out though for charging, and must be disconnected to pull it out all the way. There are a couple of 12 volt plugs in the galley and in the cabin. No inverter or AC plugs though.

Final thoughts:

Hunters have improved a bit over the years. Mine was a 2000, and I've seen a 2003 model and it had wider plywood sides, and lighter wood, but that's about all I saw that was different. hunters are good if you are low on cash or just want one to tide your teardrop craving over until you've built your own. I think Hunters have a price range of $4000-$6000? not sure though.

Camp-Inns are excellent build quality and excellent customer service. Even their owner's manual is excellent and full of pictures and has wiring diagrams and everything. Get a Camp-Inn if you want the quality of a home-built and can't build your own. Camp-Inns come in many different styles, from 4 foot wide to 5 foot wide, all 8 feet long. Body styles are different as well. You can get one with or without the front storage and one with or without the front tear windows. Interior styles are different as well. Their campers range from around $5000- $12000 depending on model and features and options. In my opinion, they are TOTALLY worth the extra cash and if you can afford it, get one. All camp-inn owners are super nice and willign to show off their trailers for you if you are interested, and all of us owners have brochures to send you if you want them. camp-inn owners are the "sales force" for camp-inn and the trailers sell themselves. Of course, all teardrop owners are 'salespeople" for the teardops and the trailers tend to sell themselves no matter what. But camp-inn owners get coupons in their brochures, adn if someone uses their coupon and buys a trailer, the owner gets a small "selling" monetary award. Its a pretty neat deal.

OK, I'm done comparing and gushing over my trailer now, sorry for the long post but i hope it was informative.
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Postby sftiggee » Wed May 26, 2004 5:32 pm

campadk wrote:How do you like the holdup bar used in the Camp-Inn's galley? Can't tell how well that works. I like the Hunters locking side rigger setup... although I sometimes worry if I didn't push it up right, it might fall, although I must say this has never happened after about 40 nights of camping in it so far.


The hold up bar on the galley is EXCELLENT. It is bevelled and grooved in such as way that NO wind or bump will cause the galley lid to crash down on you. It glides along on its own and pops into place easily. To disengage it, you simple hold the lid, push the bar to get it started back up its path and then close.

I also liked the hold up bar on the Hunter, although you really did have to lift it to get it to disengage. I remember getting up on my tippy toes to do that sometimes, but a good bar nonetheless. Both bars are much better than just a stick, thats for sure!
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Postby beverlyt » Wed May 26, 2004 7:09 pm

Jolene,
Could you sometime take a close-up of those tiny vents you mentioned that are on the door? How do they "open"?
Another note:
All the talk of condensation. Of course, our trailer is a home-brew variety but I have a feeling we will never regret insulating the entire trailer. I'm hoping that will keep the condensation down to nil.
We also wanted it for sound quality. And we did add latches that can lock on the inside. Of course, I suppose putting a different type of inside lock on the inside would be easy enough also. (We looked into those at one time before buying the lockable latches) All this talk of Hunters and Camp-ins also help us home builders for ideas.
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