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Postby Arne » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:34 pm

I just got my 'gas bill'.. I charge all gas on a Discover card that gives me 5% back... that bill last month was #350.00... I took two trips that were about 500 miles each way.... the rest was local... very scary. Can't go far these days without is adding up quickly.

Every day I travel cost me one tank of gas.. that runs about $50.00..
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Postby mfkaplan » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:52 pm

Not sure how much this affects gas prices but the octane rating for regular gas varries from state to state. In most states including California it is 87. However I noticed in some of the states I drove through it was 85 and midgrade was closer to 87. Gas is graded and priced by its octane rating. I was mostly stopping at the big truckstops.

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Postby mikeschn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:42 pm

I just had to throw this out...

Q: What is meant by Octane?
A: The Antiknock Index, commonly referred to as Octane, is a measure of a gasoline's ability to resist preignition, or engine knock. The Antiknock Index posted at the retail pump, such as 87 Octane, is the result of a formula which most closely depicts the average resistivity of the gasoline to engine knock. This average is displayed on the gasoline pump with a sticker showing (R+M)/2 Method.

The Research Octane Number, or R in the equation, is a measure of the gasoline's ability to resist knock at low speed under relatively mild operating conditions, such as city type driving. The Motor Octane Number, or M in the equation, is a measure of the gasoline's ability to resist knock at high speeds and under severe operating conditions, such as towing a boat or climbing steep hills. The average of these two numbers defines how well the gasoline will resist engine knock under most conditions.
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Postby Miriam C. » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:46 pm

:cry: Gas went from $2.74 this morning to $2.99 a gal. this afternoon. Supposedly 42,000 gallons of oil spilled into the river at Coffeyville KS. They do not believe it made it's way to the lake that supplies water for Tulsa. :? I wonder where the oil went 8) 8) 8)
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Postby asianflava » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:50 pm

Yeah I had to buy that crappy gas in Utah and Colorado. I've never seen 85 octane gas in my life. I was upwards of $350/gal at the time to boot. I track my mileage and noticed a drop with the 89 octane gas that was cut with ethanol.
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Postby sdtripper2 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:35 pm

Rocky:

I too remember Utah and the infamous 85 octane. My 4 cylinder Honda
didn't like those long hills one bit with that stuff. I will never use that again.

The noises coming from my poor CR-v could have come right out of any number of road travel horror stories.

I truly felt my poor cars pain: :(

It took me some time to get back in its good graces: 8)
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Postby Elumia » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:04 am

The low octane rating is because altitude is taken into consideration in the calculation. Your car also ran crappy because there is less oxygen than at sea level. probably 10% HP reduction due mainly to altitude. When I lived in CO I remember how snappy my car seemed when I drove out to lower altitude.

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Postby Dave Bob » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:29 am

asianflava wrote: I track my mileage and noticed a drop with the 89 octane gas that was cut with ethanol.


1 gallon of gasoline has 125,000 BTU, 1 gallon of ethanol has 84,400. So called gasahol 10% ethanol 90% gasoline has 120,900 BTU per gallon.

Don't get me wrong we need to have alternate fuels and energy, but you have to follow the BTU's. I've seen a lot of claims about "better" gas mileage with gasahol, but the science ain't there. Higher BTU = higher mileage.

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Postby asianflava » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:14 pm

Dave Bob wrote:
asianflava wrote: I track my mileage and noticed a drop with the 89 octane gas that was cut with ethanol.


1 gallon of gasoline has 125,000 BTU, 1 gallon of ethanol has 84,400. So called gasahol 10% ethanol 90% gasoline has 120,900 BTU per gallon.

Don't get me wrong we need to have alternate fuels and energy, but you have to follow the BTU's. I've seen a lot of claims about "better" gas mileage with gasahol, but the science ain't there. Higher BTU = higher mileage.

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Yes, I'm aware of the lower energy content on ethanol. There is an even larger disparity when using E85 which contains even more ethanol. I just bought the 10% stuff because it was cheap. Cheap enough to warrant the drop in mileage? That is what I wanted to find out.

One thing that I forgot to mention was the strong quartering wind we encountered when leaving Nebraska. I'm sure anyone heading East after Minden can attest to it.
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Postby WarPony » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:15 pm

asianflava wrote:One thing that I forgot to mention was the strong quartering wind we encountered when leaving Nebraska. I'm sure anyone heading East after Minden can attest to it.


Yep, we ran into that wind on our way home. I filled up in Minden with the 10% ethanol gas and lost a half mile/gal. in mileage. I thought it would be more than that. The power seemed to be less with the 10% stuff because the truck had trouble keeping the speed on those long Kansas and Nebraska rolling hills. Of course, the wind was NOT blowing on our way TO Minden.

Oh BTW, price of gas this morning.....$2.95. On the way home.......$3.09 :x :x !!

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Postby Tallguy3578 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:20 pm

$2.95 for regular unleaded this evening in Lexington, KY. It was up to $3.25 just a few weeks ago, then went down to $2.65 for about thirty five seconds. It's fun playing roulette with the gas prices!
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Postby WarPony » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:00 pm

$2.70 today.................... :twisted: It has dropped 30 to 40 cents in the past 2 weeks!!

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Postby Miriam C. » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:02 pm

WarPony wrote:$2.70 today.................... :twisted: It has dropped 30 to 40 cents in the past 2 weeks!!

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How the heck is that. We are still at $2.83 and MO's taxes are at least .15 cents cheaper than Kansas. Best I cross the state line to get gas tomorrow. :thumbsup:
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Postby asianflava » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:13 pm

We were driving around last night and saw a Wal-Mart that had it for $2.67. I went ahead and got gas for the week. I still had some money on my Wal-Mart card so that gave me another 3cents off.
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Postby bledsoe3 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:30 am

I saw it for 2.65 yesterday. :applause:
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