Dual axle HF trailer

[angib]

Sonetpro's photo clearly illustrates that having a sharp corner at the bottom of the body, front and back, not only is easier to build and gives you more useful internal space, but it also stops the body being tooo much longer than the frame.

For the record, I reckon an original Cub body is 40% longer than the length of its flat bottom (120" overall vs 86" flat bottom).

Andrew

[McTeardrops]

John

If that teardrop body thing doesn't work out for you, you could always use that frame for towing tanks through minefields....


Sorry, but you did ask for some ribbing

[jdarkoregon]

I imagine it would do great in a explosion! I should make the whole tear our of 1/2" steel plate and find that Limo to tow it. The Frame is WAY overkill, but for the double axles it was almost a requirment. Going uphill will be more difficult than it should be.

Like I said, My welder only makes things that are going to be around till the end of the world.

How do you think it will look with 20" rims and low profile tires?

Thanks for the comments

John

[Sonetpro]

How do you think it will look with 20" rims and low profile tires?

Like a roller skate.

[Nitetimes]

How do you think it will look with 20" rims and low profile tires?

Like a roller skate.

Still laughin'!!

[jdarkoregon]

ME TOO!!!

[s_helberg]

First time poster here but this is an idea I've been playing with. A 4x10 HF dually trailer. This is the 8" wheel version.



By the way... This is a really nice forum. Great exchange of ideas from everyone.

Steve

[jdarkoregon]

S_helberg

Hey, sounds great and sounds fun ta do, fenders will have to be custom made,

Welcome to the board, if you have been here for awhile you know that the humor is everywhere, be careful, sometimes it is pretty brutal, but all in fun.

Be ready, dual axles go against the norm, but they are accepted, as long as we show pictures, they will go easy on us,

You are right, there is soooooo much knowledge here.

Hope to hear more from you as your project matures

John

[madjack]

Welcome to the board SteveH(oh no another Stevet)...I kinda like the idea of a small tired dual axle setup...be aware(if not already) that is not as simple as bolting up another axle...an equalizer is required between the two sets of springs...discussion and drawings/photos are shown earlier in this thread about this type of setup...
madjack

[Sonetpro]

MJ, That's SteveT
I know if anybody has pulled a split axle it't you.

[madjack]

MJ, That's SteveT
I know if anybody has pulled a split axle it't you.

..ya see my point...so many Steve's I got confuzed and yeah, dual axles, triple axles, drop axles, spread alxes...have pulled most all of 'em at one time or another...(spread axles are the toughest...triples ain't no picnic either)
madjack

[mikeschn]

First time poster here but this is an idea I've been playing with. A 4x10 HF dually trailer. This is the 8" wheel version.



By the way... This is a really nice forum. Great exchange of ideas from everyone.

Steve

That's definitely interesting... did you see the discussion we had on the previous page of this thread on pivots? I wonder if your axles need to pivot the same way?

Mike...

[madjack]

Mike, to keep the weight equalized on both wheels on a side the "pivot" is needed...that is why it called an "equalizer"
madjack

[jdarkoregon]

So Madjack, would the placement of the double axles be that of a sandard placement, or would there be some equation for the weight distribution like exist for teardrops?


John

[madjack]

John, that is a real good question...one that I have never given consideration previously...the formula that we use for single axle TD's was developed by Andrew our resident engineer, so as far as I know, no similar formula exists for a dual axled trailer.

The basic rule of thumb still applies though...that is between 10 and 20% of total weight on the tongue...with the axle in the position you show in your drawing and the TD being built in the standard manner(rear galley), you would be faced with a tongue weight that is too low, necessitating a movement of the axles to the rear...that movement would probably be only in the 10 to 15% of total length range(amount of movement to the rear)...

There are so many variables that it is really hard to say with any specificity and any thing I have stated above is nothing but S.W.A.G. The only truism in all of this, is the necessity of a 10%+ weight on the tongue...I guess you could say that YOU are the guinea pig this time around

As I have been typing this up, I have come to the conclusion that I really have no idea how it would play out...the 60/40 split onna 12" cabin would put the centerline at 48"s...if it were onna single axle, the centerline would fall at around 44"s so it is close...putting heavy items such as battery/water/propane in the front would probably make the 60/40 split just fine...BUT I just dunno..........
madjack