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by **mikeschn** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:48 am

I think it would look similar to this, except offset to 1 side...

Mike...

by **mikeschn** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:06 am

Here's the computer model of the bulkhead wall. You can see the opening for the AC, for forced air furnace. You can also see the area that is boxed off for the propane bottle. It will be sealed to the inside, and vented to the outside!

Mike...

P.S. I'm hoping there will not be a problem sliding the bottle on above the fender...

by **mikeschn** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:22 am

Steve,

Here's the dimensions...

In case you are wondering why I am showing that little access panel on this drawing, it's so that incase I can't get the bottle in above the fender, then I'll have to slip it in from the inside. This little panel would would have rubber seals, and be screwed in with 4 screws. You can leave it off at this point.

Whew!!!

Mike...

P.S. To everyone else on the board... is this the right approach?

by **Guest** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:43 am

Hey Mike,
You can round file my 2 cents if you like, but I sure think the AC needs to be centered if possible, so the exterior vent isn't offset.
Is there any way to swap the furnace and the AC around?
(That would probably mess up your propane storage though)
I just think having the vent offset would look odd. (Sorry)

BTW Glen sends a big THANK YOU, for all your help with the boat forum.

by **mikeschn** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:46 pm

Dean in Eureka, CA wrote:Hey Mike,
You can round file my 2 cents if you like, but I sure think the AC needs to be centered if possible, so the exterior vent isn't offset.
Is there any way to swap the furnace and the AC around?
(That would probably mess up your propane storage though)
I just think having the vent offset would look odd. (Sorry)

BTW Glen sends a big THANK YOU, for all your help with the boat forum.

Yes, it's offset to one side. I don't know any way around that. The furnace is vented out the street side wall, and the A/C intake is on the curb side wall.

Here's what the furnace side vent looks like...

And here's the vent intake side...

And if you'd like to spin the model around, and zoom in and out... just click here:
http://www.mikenchell.com/images/lil_diner_bulkhead.wrl

Mike...

by **TRAIL-OF-TEARS** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:50 pm

Mike,
Propane bottles inside? that is scary, that has the potential of one big boom. check out this site for some frequently asked questions about propane bottles. especially the part that says never take a propane tank into an enclosed structure. www.deq.state.la.us/assistance/recyclin ... inders.htm unless you vent it very well, I would mount the bottle on the tongue. Just for safety sake. Maybe You can get one of those 11 lbs camp-inn type tanks to cut some of the weight if need be.

by **TRAIL-OF-TEARS** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:54 pm

Also to solve the AC off-set problem just extend the exterior vent the whole length. you use half and the other half would be a false vent, just for aesthetics. just an idea.

by **AmyH** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:04 pm

Mike,
I plan to store my propane bottle in the back galley area myself. I am building in a storage compartment with an access door that will be on the side of the tear. The small compartment will hold a small #5 manchester propane tank along with two small green disposable bottles. The tank will be hooked into a regulator, and the hose that comes off of it will go through a vapor tight straight through fitting ( http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... ctId=73122 ). I will have a vent covered by a clamshell ( http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... ctId=21643 ) mounted very low near the compartment door, so that if there is any leak it will vent to the outside of the tear. I think that this set-up will be safe. :thumbsup:

Amy

by **mikeschn** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:10 pm

Amy,

I will have a hole in the floor, and a "cold air return" vent on the side wall (perhaps part of the access door). It will be well vented to the outside, and completely sealed from the inside. I think that'll work. I also saw that done on a Unimog!!!

Mike...

P.S. I think this will be safe too!

AmyH wrote:Mike,
I plan to store my propane bottle in the back galley area myself. I am building in a storage compartment with an access door that will be on the side of the tear. I think that this set-up will be safe.
Amy

by **Frank** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:09 pm

The propane bottles (2at 40lbs) are in an inside department on the fifth wheel with an outside door and the floor is screen wire grating. Never had a problem in 12 years of use.

Frank

by **Guest** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:27 pm

mikeschn wrote:
And if you'd like to spin the model around, and zoom in and out... just click here:
http://www.mikenchell.com/images/lil_diner_bulkhead.wrl

Mike...

Well,
That's about all I've been able to figure out how to do with that program... twirl stuff. :oops:

by **Frank** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:31 pm

Didn't know you could do anything else unless you had the program. Can you?

Frank :thinking:

by **AmyH** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:01 pm

I also saw that done on a Unimog!!!

Mike, what is a "Unimog"?

A

by **Guy** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:19 pm

Dear Steve and Mike,

Is there any specific reason you chose EPS (polystyrene) over Polyureathane foam for the insulation?

by **mikeschn** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:37 pm

AmyH wrote:
Mike, what is a "Unimog"?

A

Amy,

Here's some UniMog photos...

http://www.xor.org.uk/unimog/campermog.htm

Mike...

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