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Postby jason mundt » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:13 pm

Hi I’m Jason Mundt
(this is my second try at a forum post ever , I did a “reply“ today just to see if anything worked).

I would like to introduce myself with the sad story of why I’m going to attempt a TD trailer build. For several years my wife and 4 kids and I would take great trips in our VW Vanagon weekender camper.

With some luck this is a picture from mid Baja Mexico of me and the van :
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On our next trip to LA (this April to Lego-land) it burned to the ground. I was visiting a friend and the wife Amanda was driving it on I-5 heard an bang and smoke then fire. She got to the edge of the road and got everyone out OK. With all the work I did making it a better camper I should have spent some time replacing the fuel line.

Pic of van burning:
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So that ended our weekend trips to point-rays, the redwoods, SF Exploratorium, and Nampa. We used to stealth camp in little holes all over the place. Now we have only camped once this summer in a tent. Even worse I had to get my wife a newer and in-law approved safe and reliable mini-van (grand dodge caravan).

Pic of van leftovers:
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As I’m done with VW’s for a while and still want to go camp I lucked across the tear drop thing. My need to build stuff different struck a cord. I have some crazy ideas for a trailer, I’ve already purchased and DMV’ed a HF trailer and started making full scale models from foam (nd reading this forum).

Pic full size foam TD idea:
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IF it’s OK I’d like to show you (the TD experts) my ideas and list of impossible trailer specs and get your advise. Was wondering if I should add it to this post? I need to fit this family in a TD (check out Jared's crazy eyes, would you sleep in a TD with that kid).

Fam pic:

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Finally, I would like to thank all of you who have added to this site is has already been helpful and fun to look at the pictures.

Jason Mundt
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Postby del » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:24 pm

Welcome Jason and family. Yes you can put your ideas on here. This community works because we share our ideas, and Auntie M will appreciate the pics. Any questions that come up, ask and many answers will follow.

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Postby Joanne » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:24 am

Hi Jason,

I'm really sorry to hear about your VW fire. I'm old enough to have a special attraction to VWs of various shapes and sizes. (My first car was a 65 bug)

That said, I hope you have a great time building your trailer! The idea of mocking up out of foam is a good one. Most of us are not professional engineers and don't have the ability to completely visualize the trailer and how everything fits together.

Keep posting those pictures! :thumbsup:

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Postby halfdome, Danny » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:40 am

Welcome Jason, I'm all too familiar with the dangers of that fuel line above the engine on VW buses, almost lost one myself years ago. We'd love to see your ideas, just start another thread so we can follow your progress. Have fun with your build, :D Danny
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Postby neal b » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:42 am

hi jason welcome to the mad house its a great place to be enjoy your build and have fun camping once again howdy from missouri

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Postby MOKI SEAKER » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:43 am

Welcome Jason, this is the best site, for knowledge about a build. It is unfortunate about your van, spent plenty a night in one in the 70's. You have to be careful here though this is very habit forming, and most can not stop with just one trailer, first a TD then a standy, then of all things a jelly bean. Some just go the other way, a big trailer then a small trailer. The biggest thing is they wouldn't let you quit Good Luck and Happy Camping...Jim G :) :)
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Postby Mike C. » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:34 am

Welcome jason,

Hope you enjoy the forum. Interesting last name. Do you have relatives in Nebraska? My 1st wife's maiden name was mundt and she and her family were from there.

Anyway, have fun and jump in and participate like you've already done, and I will see you around. :thumbsup:
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Postby Duane King » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:54 am

Jason,
Welcome to the forum. I'm sure you will find plenty of opinions to your design ideas. Everyone here is very supportive.

I noticed in your post that you want to fit a family of 6 into a teardrop trailer. I think you might find this to be impossible. Especially considering the fact that your children will grow at an alarming rate. Some here have rigged hanging cots to the inside of their trailers for children to use. This works for a while and then the kids outgrow them. The basic problem is that most teardrop trailers seem to max out at a width of 5'. This does not allow for sleeping parallel to the axle unless you are small. Some have gotten around this by building as wide as 6'. But at that point you start to get quite big for a teardrop.

If you have lurked on this site for any length of time you probably know by now how most people define a teardrop. It is a small trailer in which a person can NOT stand up. The classic "airfoil" shape is not a requirement of every trailer called a teardrop. Some are faceted and some are downright square. The greatest of the characteristics of a teardrop trailer is the ability to cook outside the trailer using a galley that swings open in some way. This cooking in the great outdoors is not only a lot of fun and very appealing to a lot of people, it keeps cooking odors out of the area in which you will be sleeping.

There are many people passing through this forum that decide to push the envelope when designing their ultimate trailer. People are experimenting with trolley top roofs and slide out sections. There are those that also build attached tents as a way of expanding the interior of their camping space.

When the building starts to get a little overscale or some of the signature elements of a teardrop start to disappear, we then refer to that as a "Tiny Travel Trailer". You will notice that is in the name of this forum. You haven't posted your ideas yet, so we don't know if it is really a teardrop you are designing or a tiny trailer. However you ultimately decide to label your creation, I have no doubt you will receive much satisfaction from the creative process involved.

Even though you have not yet shared all of your ideas, here is what I would do to give a teardrop experience to a family of 6.

Mom and Dad can sleep in the teardrop with a cot for the youngest children hanging above them. The median age children sleep in the tow vehicle. That is why a van is good. The older children sleep in a tent. One of the quick pop-up dome tents is perfect for this. It's not long before your children insist on bringing friends camping with them. That's why you need the pop-up tent. (don't put it too close to the trailer).

Everyone in the family gets to share the teardrop experience by taking part in the communal cooking that happens whenever people camp. If your galley is well thought out, you could provide food prep areas for people of various ages and sizes.

If children complain that they don't get to sleep in the trailer when you go camping, you can make it up to them by allowing them to have sleepovers in the driveway with their best friends. That way they get to "camp" also. Plan on using your trailer as a spare bedroom and you can get year round use. :thumbsup:

I probably haven't told you anything new. I just felt like typing. . . But if there is anything of value in this post it is the idea that a teardrop trailer does not have to hold the entire family in order for the entire family to enjoy it. So much of the fun comes from the small size. If you make it too big, well then you have built something else entirely. Kids grow fast, so build a trailer that will please you and your wife. Then when they grow, help them build them their own trailers. Plan for the day when a family reunion is achieved by circling the teardrops.

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Postby Bill Fernandez » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:57 am

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Postby jimqpublic » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:43 am

Welcome to the forum!

I look forward to seeing where your design ideas go. Six years ago I was bitten by the teardrop bug but with one child and another planned my sales pitch to my wife resulted in a full-bling Chalet folding trailer.

Still the itch to have a nice outdoor kitchen has never left me. So I look forward to the day I can build a trailer with outdoor kitchen. As described above it may end up being a teardrop with the kids sleeping in a tent. It may be more of a "canned ham" TTT.

When I was a kid we had a trailer that was 13' overall including the hitch. The body was about 10' and it claimed to sleep 8. Realistically it would sleep fewer- but it had a 48" rear sofabed, 36" front dinette/bed, and 40" fold down bunks over both.
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Postby Caradoc » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:06 am

Welcome Jason,

It's nice to see more Northern Nevada people. I live in Sparks and work in South Reno. In fact, I think my wife and I are going to spend the night Friday at Davis Creek part just south of Reno just as an excuse to get away in the trailer without kids.

I spent this past winter and spring building my 5x9 Benroy trailer, and it's been a lot of fun. I've tow it with my Grand Caravan, and we've been having fun all summer with it.

Even though it has a queen sized bed, the first night we had it, we did try to fit my wife and I along with my 5yo and 7yo all in the trailer together. It was cozy, and it was also the last time we'll do that. It's just a little too crowded in there. I can't imagine six people.

The next night, they were excited about having their own tent set up just for them, which we put right next to the trailer. They had their own little fort to live in, I get a nice mattress, and we've got a great galley with all of the details. Everybody is happy.

It's one of the neatest projects I've done. Good luck!

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thanks for the welcome

Postby jason mundt » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:41 pm

It was fun to see so many respond to my introduction thanks. I wish the best back to all of you.

I have put some thought into the great advise, so I'm one step closer to going crazy on the trailer.

I have drawn a few lines in excel, (we use cad at work but for fast lines when you dont know what your doing til it's done draft tools in word or excel go quick) I made a Jpeg out of it so ai could post, it's not as clean as i'd like.

(the pic is better but still no good in the album)

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My list of specs for the impossible trailer:

Total LBS 350
Hitch lbs 45
Holds 6 (2nd deck + 2 cots)
Pop up so I can dress standing
82 MPH for several hrs (Reno to Wells)
Under 4ft3 when top down (so I can see out the back)
Hatch & minimal galley (so I can call it a TD)
Some insulation (camp in Idaho winters sometimes)

When camping in the wild we will add a tent for the Kids
When stealth camping in towns we can all fit in TD
When in the super cold we can all cram in two decks and leave the top down
( we fit 6 and my 23yr old brother=7, in the VW for a week of Mexico vacation.


I’ll try for a better pic of the TD design but what do you all say?

Jason
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Postby Ira » Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:38 pm

Jason, welcome--but you can make your photos bigger.

I think you're following the avatar size limitations, but pictures you place in your post can be 820 (pixels) wide by 652 high. Just don't go over on EITHER of these dimensions and you can upload it to your album, and place it/them in a post.

And keep it under 360K, so if you're saving as a JPEG (which is what you should be doing anyway), just adjust your jpeg quality setting to bring it under 360.

But you know what? I think you guys need a Vardo with a group that big. If it starts raining big time, you don't want those kids in a tent away from you.

Who here has those cool Vardo links? Plus that guy in Pennsylvania (I think) who offers the kit, as well as the plans alone?

Now THERE'S a cool trailer for a big family.
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Postby mikeschn » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:02 pm

Hi Jason,

Welcome to the forum.

You can upload your pictures to the forum album. 640x480 works well here...

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Postby jason mundt » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:04 am

Thanks for the help with the pic size.
I figured it out, you have to get your link from the "big pic" not just the little one in the album.

So I supersized my family "honey I blew up the kids" in my original Hello post.
AND got my line drawing bigger. Still not clean but better.

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the box rotates up like the back hatch and while that happens another flap comes down to fill in the oly gap.

It has some guesses as to the LBS I'm hoping for.
The red lines are where stuff rotates to or pulls out from.

I think I'll try to put together a practice panell this weekend to see how luan and sticks glue and clamp.

Also had some fun looking at "Vardos" due to the suggestion above. My grandma in idaho has a old sheep camp we slept in as kids, the old wood wheels are too woobely anymore for it to move out of the shed but I'll get a pic of the inside of the old thing it's still very nice.

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