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Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:03 pm
by Socal Tom
flboy wrote:I agree, trailers don't carry passengers, but failed tires on a trailer can be catastrophic on the highway for passengers in Tow Vehicle and others in traffic. I'd think they would care. I am interested in what others may know. Interesting topic.

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I think I wasn't clear. I support your theory, but found no evidence. I think "ST" stands for "Sh*tty Tires"
Tom

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:14 pm
by tony.latham
I think "ST" stands for "Sh*tty Tires"


:beer:

Tony

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:28 am
by hankaye
Howdy All;

One thing that I can apply to the ST tires is that the stiffer sidewalls are designed to prevent
the tires from being over torqued in a tight turn when there are more then one axial.
On a single axial trailer there is no issue with the over torqueing as the inside wheel/tire will
turn the opposite direction at that point. That is how it was explained to me and kinda makes
sense.

hank

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:45 am
by tony.latham
hankaye wrote:Howdy All;

One thing that I can apply to the ST tires is that the stiffer sidewalls are designed to prevent
the tires from being over torqued in a tight turn when there are more then one axial.
On a single axial trailer there is no issue with the over torqueing as the inside wheel/tire will
turn the opposite direction at that point. That is how it was explained to me and kinda makes
sense.

hank


And for me, that's the only reason to run trailer tires.

Years ago, during my first build, I took my 15" rims to the local Les Schwab tire shop and asked the two guys that had been mounting tires for me for a decade, "what tires should I put on my little camper I'm building? I don't wanna have a flat." They glanced at each other and almost simultaneously said, "Six-ply Maxxis LTs."

And they were right. I have no idea how many thousands of miles I've run on rough roads with them but it's a bunch.

Tony

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:54 pm
by ris
I subscribe to "Long Long Honeymoon" a Youtube RV channel that has been going since Youtube started. They recently did an episode "Do you have MayPops on your RV. They run E range Truck tires and the guy they talked to who is an expert on Air Stream travel trailers says go with Truck Tires. In fact an upgrade on factory new Air Stream travel trailers is Michelin E rated truck tires. They cost more but very few total blow outs. We use E range trailer tires and replace about every 20,000 miles. We have 45,117 miles on the trailer. Our trailer is a 8.5 ft X 18 ft and weighs loaded 5,700 lbs which is why we changed from load D to load E.
Richard

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:48 pm
by friz
tony.latham wrote:
hankaye wrote:Howdy All;

One thing that I can apply to the ST tires is that the stiffer sidewalls are designed to prevent
the tires from being over torqued in a tight turn when there are more then one axial.
On a single axial trailer there is no issue with the over torqueing as the inside wheel/tire will
turn the opposite direction at that point. That is how it was explained to me and kinda makes
sense.

hank


And for me, that's the only reason to run trailer tires.

Years ago, during my first build, I took my 15" rims to the local Les Schwab tire shop and asked the two guys that had been mounting tires for me for a decade, "what tires should I put on my little camper I'm building? I don't wanna have a flat." They glanced at each other and almost simultaneously said, "Six-ply Maxxis LTs."

And they were right. I have no idea how many thousands of miles I've run on rough roads with them but it's a bunch.

Tony
I wonder if I can get them with the yellow Maxxis logos to match the bike?Image

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Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:12 pm
by tony.latham
I wonder if I can get them with the yellow Maxxis logos to match the bike?


Well... you can probably find some paint. :frightened:

Tony

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:13 pm
by featherliteCT1
ris wrote:I subscribe to "Long Long Honeymoon" a Youtube RV channel that has been going since Youtube started. They recently did an episode "Do you have MayPops on your RV. They run E range Truck tires and the guy they talked to who is an expert on Air Stream travel trailers says go with Truck Tires. In fact an upgrade on factory new Air Stream travel trailers is Michelin E rated truck tires. They cost more but very few total blow outs. We use E range trailer tires and replace about every 20,000 miles. We have 45,117 miles on the trailer. Our trailer is a 8.5 ft X 18 ft and weighs loaded 5,700 lbs which is why we changed from load D to load E.
Richard


ris,

Thanks for posting a reference to the tire video. :thumbsup: Below is the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xibG3Ia1dIw

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:01 am
by Karebru
Thanks for the link. :thumbsup:

While we're on the subject of tires...
What kind of jack does everyone bringing along for changing a trailer tire on the road?
Something light weight that takes up little space, I assume.
Also, I never really thought about it, but is there any reason to rotate the tires on a dual axle trailer?

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:20 pm
by tony.latham
Karebru wrote:Thanks for the link. :thumbsup:

While we're on the subject of tires...
What kind of jack does everyone bringing along for changing a trailer tire on the road?
Something light weight that takes up little space, I assume.
Also, I never really thought about it, but is there any reason to rotate the tires on a dual axle trailer?
The one that’s in my Tacoma. No need for two jacks.

Tony

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:58 pm
by Gulfcoast
I use a low cost 12-ton bottle jack from HFT.... it works well for me.

They have smaller jacks but I like the wider base on the 12-ton.

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:29 pm
by featherliteCT1
I, like Karebru, have a tandem axle so I use one of these drive up jacks shown in the below link.

https://www.amazon.com/Trailer-Aid-Tand ... 4889&psc=1

I have used the drive up jack to remove all four of my wheels to repack the bearings, and it worked well. Lightweight too.

The OEM jack for my Silverado truck is pretty wobbly for the size of my trailer, but would work well for a teardrop, like Tony said. On the other hand, the jack for some other vehicles do not have a flat surface on top (the kind that fit into a unibody frame) so that kind of jack probably would not work well. Best to check before relying on the vehicle jack.

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:38 pm
by Karebru
I like that. Low tech. No moving parts.
Nothing wrong with a good old bottle jack either.
The scissor jack in my Frontier just isn't that great. I've used it.

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:22 pm
by pchast
I can pull tires of the tear with just the
back stabilizers and the tongue jack. :thumbsup:

Re: Upgrading tires.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:54 am
by hankaye
Howdy All;

Having to swap out a bad tire on a narrow section of Interstate shoulder I'd rather not
want to try backing on to one of the Yellow ramp style if the front tire goes bad. Much
better with the bottle jack and a piece of 2X8 (or 10 or 12), as a base. I use a 12ton,
no need to over stress it, right. chuckle.

hank