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Battery Storage

Postby Two Showers » Sun May 10, 2009 1:20 pm

I tow with a VW 1641cc TRIKE. So we have weight issues and everything has to be kept as light as possible.
My problem is I need to store a leisure battery in the mini caravan, just for 12v lighting and phone charging, iPod stuff etc
I need to find the smallest battery I can as space and weight is an issue.
If I use a leisure battery do I need to ensure it's in a sealed container with ventillation to the outside?
Is there a dry cell 12v battery I could use, as I have space to store inside the caravan but sealing to vent externally is going to be a problem

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Postby devigata » Mon May 11, 2009 4:31 am

Have you looked into solar? I don't know anything about it, but a panel would have to weigh less than a battery...
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Battery issue

Postby Prem » Wed May 13, 2009 11:30 am

Sealing an inside battery box that vents to the outside is easy. Just use caulking on the box and foam weather stripping to seal the access lid. Get a little aluminum, circular vent from the hardware store for the outside.

A solar (photovoltaic) panel won't give you electricity at night when it's needed for lighting.

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Re: Battery issue

Postby Two Showers » Wed May 13, 2009 12:42 pm

Prem wrote:Sealing an inside battery box that vents to the outside is easy. Just use caulking on the box and foam weather stripping to seal the access lid. Get a little aluminum, circular vent from the hardware store for the outside.
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That's fine if you're talking about a Tear that's large in size, being pulled by a car/van/truck, but my Teardrop is a modified small (very small) box trailer that's been dropped in height. Deliberately made for towing with Trikes or very light kit cars or micro cars. The seat/storage you can see is only as tall as a battery, so I can't fit it under there.
I'm trying to find a way of fitting or identify a very very small leisure battery which would go under and allow me to vent outside, or a dry cell battery that doesn't need venting. It's hard to tell how big my micro caravan is, but trust me. It jsut makes a bed 4 feet wide by 6'6" long.
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Batteries (short)

Postby Prem » Wed May 13, 2009 5:14 pm

Motorcycle batteries. Lawn mower starting batteries. Or if you want the exotic, explore www.batteries.com

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More Batteries (short)

Postby Prem » Wed May 13, 2009 5:22 pm

...and check out MARINE batteries, like this example:

http://www.lifelinebatteries.com/marineflyer.php?id=9

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Postby mikeschn » Wed May 13, 2009 5:25 pm

I would grab an AGM motorcycle battery. Small, light, and no fumes, or so they say. If all you need it for is lights, it should last all weekend without a problem.

It probably wasn't necessary, but I put a hole in the floor and in the sidewall, just in case.

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Postby madjack » Wed May 13, 2009 6:12 pm

TS, I am presently using 2, 6v, 33ah SealedLeadAcid batteries, which are designed for a backup power supply...they are 2.75"s thick and about 6"s square, giving a footprint of about a 6" cube...I paid 25USD each at www.batterymart.com ...I'm sure something similar is available on your side of the pond...........
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Postby Two Showers » Wed May 13, 2009 6:41 pm

Cheers Guys, I much appreciate the info


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Postby Two Showers » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:33 pm

Thanks for all the help.
I'm now running a 17AH 12V (Golf Cart Battery) as I've found it can be put in any position and as the Teardrop only has LED lighting, it lasts for days and days. I then take it out to charge it. I don't need to charge whilst riding the Trike so its saved me a lot of wiring.
I appreciate all the guidance you lot gave.
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Postby rebapuck » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:23 pm

What about one of those power paks that jump car batteries? I use one in the VW for (110v)lights. Can use a cig lighter adapter for 12v. Does have a low noise when on, but I don't have it in a cabinet.
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Postby Two Showers » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:00 am

Its all down to weight. With a 550Kg Trike, I'm limited to towing 250Kg

SO for Tirkes in the UK we have to go ultralight.
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Re: Battery issue

Postby shelgenortiz » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:40 am

Prem wrote:Sealing an inside battery box that vents to the outside is easy. Just use caulking on the box and foam weather stripping to seal the access lid. Get a little aluminum, circular vent from the hardware store for the outside.

A solar (photovoltaic) panel won't give you electricity at night when it's needed for lighting.

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It depends the quality and size. φωτοβολταϊκό πάνελ or photovoltaic panels and good batteries can give you more power to charge you phone, stoves and lights.. :thumbsup:
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Postby Twinsteel » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:08 pm

rebapuck wrote:What about one of those power paks that jump car batteries? I use one in the VW for (110v)lights. Can use a cig lighter adapter for 12v. Does have a low noise when on, but I don't have it in a cabinet.


I'm curious about this idea, can you tell me more about the battery pack you use? Why does it make a noise? Do you recharge it in your VW while underway? How long does a charge last to power your trailer, and what do you run off of it? Any problems with battery life given multiple charge/discharge cycles?

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