HALLMARK 6X12 CONVERSION

[Tommy B]

Thanks Hank. Here is an actual picture of how it is now.

May take a little work but it should fit but might be a problem. We shell see. It will be very close as I need to stay on the left of the sink drain pipe.

[hankaye]

Tommy B. Howdy;

You could move the pump over a bit then with the judicious use of some elbows
and unions and remember the Accum. does not have to lay flat (with support), you
should find ample room for the Accum.
, .

hank

[flboy]

The accumulator can be fitted anywhere after the pump on the cold water line

Edit.. Just saw Hank's reply. :-)

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[flboy]

Thanks Hank. Here is an actual picture of how it is now.

May take a little work but it should fit but might be a problem. We shell see. It will be very close as I need to stay on the left of the sink drain pipe.

Tommy, you could mount it on the head wall inline with the vertical pipe going to your sink faucet (from the pic it looks like you have a lot of room there) . Just screw it to the wall. It just needs to be on the cold side anywhere between the pump output and a faucet.

[Tommy B]

Hey Don,
I think it needs to be before the on demand heater also, and there for before the first T right after the pump. I say this because I notice a REALLY good bit of fluctuation in my hot water out put as I run the sink water. This is some of the fine tuning I was referring too. A few issues after all.

I have tried various dial adjustments on that heater and still cant seem to dial it in to perfect. Either too cool or to hot. This may help some.

Anybody??

I really need to experiment with it in the driveway as water goes so fast when boon docking.

[flboy]

Theoretically it should not make a difference where after the pump output as the pressure should be the same anywhere on the cold side. You can try moving it around to see if it makes a difference.. who knows.

I'd expect you would see a hotwater fluctuation in the shower if you turn the sink on? All the water is sourced from the cold side. Do you have hot water on the sink? I only see one pipe going up?

I think the accumulator will solve the low flow issue I showed you with my setup, but not the hot water fluctuation if you turn the sink on.

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[Tommy B]

Jeeze you pretty sharp! That is a pic before I ran the hot water line. I did not even notice.

However it would seem that if the cold water tees off and runs up to the on demand water pump and then directly to the hot faucet, there would be no benefit for that line via the accum. unless.....there would be back pressure back towards the tee and to the on demand heater as well as the toilet. But I figure only the out put end of the accum will ease the trouble, not both ends. Hahaaha.

Only way for sure is to nip it off right at the outlet side of that pump...I think....maybe....

Sorry you don't see the return line from the on demand. Let me look back and grab a previous pic..I will edit in a moment...but you get what I mean Don? Or anybody?

[hankaye]

Tommy B. Howdy;

As long as you have the Accum. installed before any outlet it should maintain a constant
pressure for the entire system from the exit from the pump to the furtherest faucet. Remember,
liquids do not compress, so the pressure will remain the same throughout ...

hank

[Tommy B]

There if that helps some. Line on right is cold in coming, line on left is out going. I really think the accum must be before the T to provide relief to both the hot and cold. Right???

I see hank, that's seems to confirm it then. Before the T

[flboy]

Tommy, the input an output is the same point if I understand the accumulator correctly. It is effectively just a T connection an you cant see the third side inside the tank. There is just a rubber bladder inside that holds about a 1/2 liter of water and compresses air between the bladder and plastic tank to create a back pressure.

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[hankaye]

Tommy B. Howdy;

In the photo above my last post you can install the Accum. anywhere on either
side of the "T" that is shown to the Left of the pump. Installing it anywhere
along those 2 sections of PEX will pressurize the entire system except for the short
run from pump to Accum.

hank

[Tommy B]

Hello Hank,
Well I guess that is what Don was saying and boy would that make it very easy for me. I have plenty of pex tubing if it doesn't work.

But if I can, I will move the pump to the right as much as possible and hope it fits there. If not, on either side of the tee I guess. Still will be a pain I think.

Let you know how it goes.

[Tommy B]

So while I am prepping for all this,

The 3 prong is for the on/off switch.

How do I wire this in so there is only two wires going to the Auxiliary buss?

Thank you

[flboy]

Tommy, is that switch illuminated? If so, the copper side is ground and can be daisy chained with the other grounds. In that case, the other two terminals are the switch. Just make sure the battery side does not illuminate the switch when it is grounded. The light should only come on when switched.

The switched output is what you should daisy chain to the other + inputs.

If it doesn't make sense, bring it over and I'll wire it up for you so all you have to do is tie it in to your panel and ground.

[Tommy B]

YES IT IS ILLUMANATED.
I don't know if that switch disconnects from the battery or just turns off the illumination. At any rate I probably will let you wire it up. Thanks. Should be here Monday. Could drop it off in your mail box after work one day. Pick it up when ever. Thank You.