HALLMARK 6X12 CONVERSION

[McDave]

"McDave... it is kinda funny when you thing about it... Tommy's AC goes through no less that 3 breakers to get to power... the 20 circuit breaker, the 30A main, and then another 20A in his house panel to the outlet which has a GFCI built in. "
Well, doesn't that seem like 1 breaker too many. That is to say, can the 30amp main really be a main if it runs from a 20amp GFCI? Mains generally run from mains or incoming power from the pole. That's a bit convoluted, at the least. Certainly there is no advantage to having a 30amp feed from a 20amp, GFCI issues aside. What age is the house?
Lots of clues here, may be best to verify all breakers.

McDave

[flboy]

"McDave... it is kinda funny when you thing about it... Tommy's AC goes through no less that 3 breakers to get to power... the 20 circuit breaker, the 30A main, and then another 20A in his house panel to the outlet which has a GFCI built in. "
Well, doesn't that seem like 1 breaker too many. That is to say, can the 30amp main really be a main if it runs from a 20amp GFCI? Mains generally run from mains or incoming power from the pole. That's a bit convoluted, at the least. Certainly there is no advantage to having a 30amp feed from a 20amp, GFCI issues aside. What age is the house?
Lots of clues here, may be best to verify all breakers.

McDave

McDave... talking about the 30 Main in Tommy's Camper's power center not the house Main. The trailer is wired with a 30A connection so a 30A main is needed which feeds the bus bar and the circuits through 20 Breakers.. When plugged into the house, I agree... the 30A breaker in the trailer is irrelevant in terms of wire protection... the 20A breakers will go first.

The 30A main in his trailer is going through a cord with adapter, plugged into a 15A GFCI wall outlet protected by a 20A house breaker. Ideally, he'd have a 30A outlet to plug his camper into... Most people will temporarily plug their camper in this way and yes sometimes the house breakers will pop because their service is diminished due to the plug in and they run more than they should.... Tommy said he was popping breakers in several locations. Of course breakers should always be suspect.. but I doubt they were all bad... His AC was clearly lugging to start and most likely exceeding the current over time curve on the breaker(s) (the HACR curve) ... makes sense to me. It only takes 12A to run so all is well when he plugs into the garage now. His house is fine. The root cause of GFCI one still has me going a bit , but whatever the case, the startup current is related because it works now.

[McDave]

Sorry Don,
I can understand the 30 better now. So let's just cut to the chase here. You are obviously skilled as a technician, and engineer. And you have had hands on with this machine. So, here is the real question, Is it right? You know what I mean.
Can you sleep with it? Could it be "more right"? You don't have to answer that tonight.
If you believe its good, then I will too.
But I'm still gonna re-read this in the AM. and see if it makes sense.

McDave

[Tommy B]

I have needed to finish this shelve for a long time. very stout. W ill allow quick access and storage for heater. In the spring Ill disconnect the heater and remove it. So lots of good storage now.

But I think it screams for a hinged door now.
I found the original receipt for the trailer the other day. 3,169.00 dollars. Another grand max for the AC and Awning installed. I have about 4k in the conversion and that would include the new Champion generator. Tires and rims too. Everything.

So give or take, 8,500 total for the C.T In cost. I am very happy with it. Just info.

[Tommy B]

A door now?

The champion genny. Started the first pull. Quite. I like it so far

[flboy]

Tommy, I like that Generator... Are you bringing it to Lake Delancey this week? I'd like to see it work and hear it. I have heard they are every bit as quiet as the Honda and very reliable. Good choice! If you decide to later, you can get another to stack and then in the hotter months when you want AC, you just run both in parallel. In the cooler months when you don't need the AC, just take one. That's probably the easiest way to solve your AC/Boondocking issue given you already have the AC installed and one of the generators. They will also be quiet enough not to disturb everyone around you. It will work for sure. Many people do the same.. I hate it when people crank those loud generators you can hear a block away... it just takes away from the camping experience..

Your CTC is very nice. You have done a great job! The hinges are a good idea for access.

[Tommy B]

Hey Don,
Oh yes its coming up. Will never go with out it. And if you think two will run that AC I will get another one for spring and summer boon docking. See what you think. You could never do that though if you did not install the turbo charge capacitor. I'm sure of it.

how would I link two genny gas tanks to a one 5 gallon tank though? I bet it can be done, just asking.

I hope you run you new rear tire set up on your KTM. I just cant imagine hitting all those trails, ATV ruts, logs, and then asphalt at 45 mph, jeep trails and the Yellow trail, and repeat x3 for days. On those bad bearings. Your KTM was a little loose in the rear last time up. Just sayin.

[flboy]

New wheels on Tommy.

Wish I had new brake pads, could have put them while I was at it. Needs new pads. Should last the weekend, but I have some arriving Tuesday that I will bring with me to change in the field if needed.

Btw.. CTC in driveway for loading.



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[Tommy B]

Oh yeah! Its on like donkey Kong!
Tire and rim/hub look killa Don.

This will be an epic trip. The weather is PERFECT.
I do expect downed trees again though. Maybe we will zip through with the atv and chain saw on a few trails if necessary.

Plenty of water now too!

[flboy]

Tommy, what size door you need for the cabinet? I have a few doors left from some old oak caninets and maybe from the donor camper. If I have a size that will work, it's yours.

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[Tommy B]

Not sure. I just cut and trimmed as needed but I will get a measurement for you. Thanks!

[Donut757]

I am interested in what you think of that generator as well. Please keep us filled in..



Not to get off topic, why does it appear there is a plug in the muffle of your bike there Don?

[flboy]

I am interested in what you think of that generator as well. Please keep us filled in..



Not to get off topic, why does it appear there is a plug in the muffle of your bike there Don?

I put that in there when I wash the bike or when it is sitting outside when it may rain. The slant of the silencer allows water in and I'd rather not boil water when warming up. :-). It shoots out when I crank it up if I forget to remove before flight
LoL

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[Tommy B]

Therapy starts here, this Wednesday 10 am sharp. BYOB. Bring a chain saw and sessions are free.

I cant help myself, sorry!

[Padilen]

In also interested in the generator. Not so much its performance. But rather its noise level. The little UST1350 I fixed is to darn loud. Sounds just like my 8 & 10 horse, generators.
I've been working a lot and think next month I will have enough funds 400-500$ for one.


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