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Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast iron

Postby jkemp512 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:21 pm

I've been reading the archive post for the "Cast Iron" sub forum.

I've used cast iron cookware for several decades, and have seasoned with several different types of oils. Have not done the coconut oil yet, but that sounds interesting. Also haven't done the flax seed oil yet either, seems difficult to find in my area, and when I do find it, it always seems very expensive, although I've heard more times than I can count that flax seed is the best.

Either way, back on topic. There are several post in the archives that discuss seasoning cast iron, not with some type of oil, but with bee's wax. I just can't understand in my mind how that could do anything.

It seems like the bee's was would either burn off or melt off, leaving bare cast iron.

Maybe this is more obvious to everyone else, but hoping someone can explain it better. Also, once a person has seasoned a cast iron cooking item with bee's wax, is it a big plus over seasoning with oil? If so, in what way.

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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby iggy3860 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:15 pm

G'day jkemp512,

I found this article a while ago on cast iron seasoning & the use of flax seed oil.

http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/ ... cast-iron/

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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby John61CT » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:31 pm

Yes flax seed oil.

Find an online bulk source, buy a years' worth one time.

I guess the wax gets burnt off, leaving ??something?? behind that carbonizes to a thin sealing layer.

Very much an unusual reco, maybe worth a try.

But really if you're treating your CI right a full reseason should be rare

cooking should be self-maintaining
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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby jkemp512 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:43 pm

John61CT wrote:
But really if you're treating your CI right a full reseason should be rare

cooking should be self-maintaining


I completely agree with this comment, rarely need to re-season, unless I do something stupid.
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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby GuitarPhotog » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:30 pm

I re-seasoned my ci skillet after it rusted after being left in the trailer for a couple of months, with bees wax.I don't know how or why it works but it does. Follow the instructions in this group, and carry on. I use my ci skillet about weekly (in the house these days) and have had no sticking issues, and have not felt it needed re-seasoning.

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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby slowcowboy » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:59 pm

Flat NO.unless you don't want to be able to go bathroom!!!!..thats why i switched to oil stuff it in the oven after oiling on 400 for 30 mins...but stay away from that crazy bees,waxe!!Not built for your body use oil bake it on and just go old school...slow.
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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby jkemp512 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:03 pm

slowcowboy wrote:Flat NO.unless you don't want to be able to go bathroom!!!!..thats why i switched to oil stuff it in the oven after oiling on 400 for 30 mins...but stay away from that crazy bees,waxe!!Not built for your body use oil bake it on and just go old school...slow.


Thanks for the post, and yes, I've done fine for many years using oil, and really don't see any reason to switch.

Possibly my question was poorly worded.

I just don't understand any way that bee's wax could be a substitute, and provide a strong, non-stick seasoning on all my Griswold and Wagoner Ware Cast iron.
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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby tomhawk » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:57 pm

This article explains the process reasonably well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasoning_(cookware)

Since there is a an element of pyrolysis involved, I would think any fatty food substance would work. I would think a liquid vegetable oil would be easier to apply than bees wax. It also may be that the unsaturated fats in vegetable oil form a better surface. That said many folks have used bees wax.

Maybe bees wax is not the most nutritious substance but folks eat it all the time as part of unfiltered honey.

As described in the article, the seasoning process results in a deposition of a tough non-stick surface on the cast iron. This coating is produced by the heat decomposition of the bees wax.
Very little of this coating will flake off into ones cooked food. Even if you don't like eating bees wax, the amount you will ingest will be homeopathic.

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Postby slowcowboy » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:50 pm

One thingy about it beeswax talking from exsperance will give you constipation from hell.....so.....no thanks....slow..
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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby jkemp512 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:39 pm

Thanks everyone for looking at my question and also thanks for the replies.

Thru all that, I'm still not certain I have any better understand as to how bees wax could provide comparable seasoning vs a standard oil based seasoning. I've also not seen any evidence that bees wax seasoning would be superior to a conventional oil based seasoning.

Had there been any arguments, pro or con, this is a good time to find out for me. These past few months, I've been enhancing my cast iron collection with several fine vintage Griswold items that I've re-seasoned as purchased cast iron items arrive.

constipation - TMI - too much information - I got the message, please do not share that anymore. :(

Again, thanks to everyone who replied.
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Re: Bee's Wax - help me understand how it can season cast ir

Postby bobhenry » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:25 am

NOW WE KNOW WHY SLOW IS FULL OF IT ! :D :D :D

ANYONE EVER CONSUMED COMB HONEY ?

I have now been treating my 47 pieces of cast iron with a bee's wax seasoning for about 9 years since being introduced to it by a fellow camper. There are several benefits I have found.... It will NOT go rancid in long term storage, you don't have a need to BAKE it in ( just rub into a warm [hot to the touch] piece. and it's done. It will completely protect from rust in long term storage, and best of all takes about 20 seconds to do inside and out. I fill my egg skillet while still hot with warm water and rest it on the stove immediately after plating up the food. I let it set till after the meal is done and then scrub with a soft green scrubbing pad. Baked on egg , sausage or bacon crumbles are easily removed. After drying on the burner I coat lightly with coconut oil for storage ( it will not go rancid either) I have re-waxed the cast iron when it gets a bit ornery while trying to wash it up. It has now been about 8 month since this was last necessary and these 4 favorite skillets are used almost daily. I am a solid member of the no bake club.
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