Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

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Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby mikeschn » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:50 pm

So here's the question of the day...

Is it possible to build a tiny house, on a harbor freight trailer? tumbleweed style?

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

Granted we are talking about a radical downsizing from the tumbleweed style homes... and it'd be a single person dwelling... but is it even possible?

Pics and suggestions are welcomed....

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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby KennethW » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:33 pm

You would be better off with a trailer like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2016-7-x-18 ... 2209692332
You would have room for a patio. But you would need a bigger TV.
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby flboy » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:53 pm

mikeschn wrote:So here's the question of the day...

Is it possible to build a tiny house, on a harbor freight trailer? tumbleweed style?

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

Granted we are talking about a radical downsizing from the tumbleweed style homes... and it'd be a single person dwelling... but is it even possible?

Pics and suggestions are welcomed....

Mike...


I can't see how given the weight limitations of that trailer. I'd recommend getting a more robust trailer.
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby Tomterrific » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:35 am

I would say yes but only if the tiny house was not towed far. Once it is at its permanent location the trailer frame can be supported with a sort of foundation. I don't think towing is a first design consideration with tiny houses.

Because you asked this question I wonder if you have thought much about what you will need to build. It will be more of a tiny standy inside rather than one of the shrunken designs you've referenced. The heavier materials and height of a tiny house design may impact just how light a trailer you can use.

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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby bobhenry » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:10 pm

House hell I put a whole barn on a 5 x 8
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby Socal Tom » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:26 pm

only if it weighed less than the rating of the trailer fully loaded. The frames on those shouldn't be trusted with much weight, let alone the axles and wheels.
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby mikeschn » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:35 pm

Yea, I gave it some more thought...

A tiny house requires a kitchen, a bathroom and a bed, and a dining room table...

Since building up on such a narrow trailer is not safe, the only option is to build lengthwise.

And the best I could do is this design...

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And yes, I know, it doesn't look anything like a small house...

Now I just have to figure out if modifying this into a small house adds any benefit...

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P.S. And if I want to add a shower, all bets are off. Back to the drawing board...!

P.P.s. This is the smallest one I could find...

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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby Socal Tom » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:21 pm

I think anything "house-like" would end up in the 1000's of pounds. The "tiny houses" on wheels are travel trailers with heavier stuff in them, like porcelain toilets, and tile floors. I think a light one would be 10K lbs.
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby Ned B » Thu May 12, 2016 2:55 pm

mikeschn wrote:Yea, I gave it some more thought...

A tiny house requires a kitchen, a bathroom and a bed, and a dining room table...

Since building up on such a narrow trailer is not safe, the only option is to build lengthwise.

And the best I could do is this design...

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P.S. And if I want to add a shower, all bets are off. Back to the drawing board...!

P.P.s. This is the smallest one I could find...

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MIke,
in and of themselves TIny Houses are a good thing, but as Bob has shared with us, most communities are not willing to embrace the 'less is more' concept. I think what you shared here is about the 'smallest' you can put on a HF trailer, true, it has 'the basics' including a porta pottie. Once you build one, you still have to have a spot to Use it. Solve That problem and design then becomes the easy part.
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby s60088 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:42 pm

Great post because I'm doing this now with an HB trailer bed said to carry up to 1,720#. Here is my post from a recent thread here not yet answered. (New to site).

I have materials in my garage ready for application to my 1,720# bearing trailer bed. I have pressure-treated lumber to carry the cantilevers beyond the steel frame and 3/4" regular plywood. I've counted my base lumber to be about 400#! I intend to make the walls using steel framing (1-5/8" studs & track using hurricane straps at the roof eaves, rigid insulation, marine-grade 1/2" ply outside w/building wrap and metal sheeting, 1/4" beaded waitscot inside).

Am I making huge mistake adding this much load in framing and flooring? I like the idea of the weight and security at bottom with lighter above. I read that steel studs weigh 2/3 that of wood... not so great a savings comsidering their being more timely to construct.

This won't be a travel TinyHouse. Just has to make it down 200 miles to my land where I intend to move.

Would love ideas....comments on this because I really want to start this week and wonder if I should exchange my wood for thinner ply and maybe go with all metal framing.
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby VijayGupta » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:30 pm

I can think of a couple of reasons not to:

I'd like something welded, not bolted together.

If it's heavy enough:
- You may want trailer brakes
- Depending upon where you tow, you may need brakes or break-away brakes http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-brakes/
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Re: Is a tiny house on a HF frame possible?

Postby Mark959 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:18 pm

porta toilet could be sitting inside a shower pan, less stink in the house if its vented too. Then you get the shower and the toilet in the same location, and only need gray water tank.
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