Mini-Kampmaster

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Mini-Kampmaster

Postby Gambam » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:21 pm

I finally got my HF trailer on the 20% off coupon found on this site.

And I have a different idea for my tear. I am designing a mini-campmaster style tear. The hatch will start near the front of the tear at the top of the front curve going back. The galley will be removable to be turned to the side to allow for 6 foot height roof. I am building a 1:10 scale model and so far it looks like a pretty interesting version.

As soon as I get the model done I'll post picts.


here is cad of the profile - the hatch will start at the 78" mark
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Postby goldcoop » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:11 pm

Elantradriver-

Sounds interesting!

You may want to think about how much tongue weight you will be adding by having the galley in the front and how it effects the overall trailers balance...

The other consideration is properly sealing a front hatch, after all this leading edge has the most exposure to wind & driving rain...

Don't let me discourage your creativity but do some research, let's hear what others have to say!

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Postby Gambam » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:23 pm

no it would still be a rear hatch, but more like the whole roof would be the hatch.
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Re: Mini-Kampmaster

Postby mikeschn » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:25 pm

Can you send me a dxf of that file...

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here is cad of the profile - the hatch will start at the 78" mark
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Postby angib » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:51 pm

I was assuming the trailer was drawn with the front to the left and the hatch to the right - not so?

The idea looks good to me, though I'd think carefully about how to tie in the beam that the hatch hinges on as it's not got a bulkhead nearby, like most teardrops, and it's sitting over the door openings - if you are thinking of building thin-skin side panels, it might be an idea to fit doublers over the doors.

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Postby goldcoop » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:32 pm

Elantradriver-

OK I get it now, I missed the profile 1st time!

Ditto Andrews concerns...

Wow, I hope there is some lateral support somewhere in that 78".

I have never seen a Kampmaster/Goose upclose!

Now I'm curious!

Keep us posted....

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Postby Gambam » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:37 pm

yes front to the left.

I was thinking that I would frame the door out with 2x4s with a 2x4 across the top to mount the hinge to. I am also only using one door, since the whole rear opens. The galley will be bolted across the back just as a normal tear for travel stiffness, this will also give me the option to use the tear as a traditional rear galley one for tailgating or quick camping stops.

do you think I'm missing anything?
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Postby mikeschn » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:47 pm

So you plan on using canvas for the sides?

Will you be able to enter and exit the tear from the rear?

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Postby Gambam » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:52 pm

I had thought of using removable panels but I need to keep the weight down a lttle, and canvas would be easiest. Yes it would have a door in the off to one side.
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Postby Gambam » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:16 pm

I wish building in wood was this easy

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Postby angib » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:02 am

The bit I don't understand, now I think about it some more, is how this design works.

If you've only got the last 18" at the rear, because the bed's in front of that, you're only going to get a galley 14" high. So you will only be able to use it like a conventional teardrop, by accessing it from outside (and thereby opening up the 'cabin' to the outside at the same time).

That reduces the value of the hatch to a 'putting on your pants nearly standing up on the bed' role - the full headroom bit being over the galley, not the bed. You mention making the galley moveable, but where to? And you're gonna do that just to put your pants on?

This is sounding rather negative, so apologies for that - I'm just confused about whether the complexity of the design gives you worthwhile practical benefits.

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Postby Gambam » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:16 am

Well I plan on using a fold up bed, so it would act as a small couch in the front, that would give us the whole hatch area to stand up. The galley, I have added a drawing to better explain my idea, but I am visioning that it would go across the back for travel or tailgating, but be moveable to the side opposite the door for camping. very basic two shelf galley, nothing fancy.

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Postby angib » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:39 am

I think you need to draw the trailer in each use - I don't see how you can fit in the things you are talking about. For example, the galley appears to stick up through the hatch when the hatch is down and I don't see how you're going to find the headroom to use a couch under that front curve.

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Postby Gambam » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:58 pm

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Postby Gambam » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:05 pm

Here is looking down from the top. I had to rethink the Galley to allow for enough room to lay down a 6ft long bed.

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