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stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:43 pm
by Richrad
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I recently bought a cute sink/single burner stove combo on Ebay. Looks great in my tiny trailer, and saves a ton of space. The problem I need advice on is connecting it. It has a corrugated (barbed?) pipe for the gas connection. I'm sure these work fine in China (whence it came) but apparently here a flared fitting is required. Any ideas on how to adapt it to a 3/8" flare, or failing that the safest way to connect it as a slip-on? Many counter people at RV stores have threatened me with an immediate and fiery death, so I want to get this right, if only out of spite!

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:42 pm
by GuitarPhotog
Do you have the matching regulator? If not, do you know what gas pressure is required?

Most build-in propane RV appliances require gas pressure of 11" W.C. and therefore require an RV propane regulator. If you have such, then a simple slip the hose on and put a hose clamp around it will be fine. Be sure to check for leaks with soapy water.

I know that flare fittings are required by code for RVs, but there's probably no way you can get there from here.

<Chas>
:beer:

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:15 pm
by S. Heisley
Some propane stores will do it for you or at least inspect and advise.

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:10 pm
by GuitarPhotog
S. Heisley wrote:Some propane stores will do it for you or at least inspect and advise.


The advice she's getting is "don't do it, it will catch fire" etc. Which is fine, but not very practical in solving her problem. Hose barbs and clamps can be successfully used if care is taken and you test for leaks from time to time. At 11" w.c. pressure, any leak will be small, and most people turn off the propane at the tank while traveling.

FYI, 11" w.c. is less than 0.5 PSI. It's not going to force the hose off the barb.

<Chas>
:beer:

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:27 pm
by GTS225
I wonder if a compression-to-flare fitting would be able to seal up on that inlet tube.

Roger

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:13 pm
by GuitarPhotog
GTS225 wrote:I wonder if a compression-to-flare fitting would be able to seal up on that inlet tube.

Roger


Without seeing it in person, I doubt it. But we don't know any dimensions.

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:40 pm
by S. Heisley
GuitarPhotog wrote:
S. Heisley wrote:Some propane stores will do it for you or at least inspect and advise.


The advice she's getting is "don't do it, it will catch fire" etc. Which is fine, but not very practical in solving her problem. Hose barbs and clamps can be successfully used if care is taken and you test for leaks from time to time. At 11" w.c. pressure, any leak will be small, and most people turn off the propane at the tank while traveling.

FYI, 11" w.c. is less than 0.5 PSI. It's not going to force the hose off the barb.

<Chas>
:beer:


Not necessarily. However, it would be better if someone knowledgeable could inspect/measure it in person and advise him. If he goes to someone who deals in propane, they may be able to sell him the parts he needs or at least tell him what to get and how to attach them. That could even be at an RV store.

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:44 pm
by GuitarPhotog
Sorry, I made a mistake in gender. My fault.

"Many counter people at RV stores have threatened me with an immediate and fiery death," doesn't sound very helpful to me, does it sound helpful to you?

<Chas>
:beer:

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:11 pm
by S. Heisley
GuitarPhotog wrote:Sorry, I made a mistake in gender. My fault.

"Many counter people at RV stores have threatened me with an immediate and fiery death," doesn't sound very helpful to me, does it sound helpful to you?

<Chas>
:beer:


You're right, Charles; however, one can usually tell whether the person knows what they are talking about or not. If they put the fear of God in ya, go someplace else. You want to find someone who is level headed and logical.

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 am
by Nodrog
ohhh...I want to wade in on this one!! So, the hose fitting is held on with 2 screws and a "strap"I guess you might call it, right? So, what is the configuration of that L shaped hose fitting where the gas goes into the rest of the control unit, the brass part? What the heck makes that weird cornbinder fabrication gas tight? Gasket? O ring? Gorilla Glue? no, I got it, chewing gum!!

What I am kind of getting at, is there a way to replace that aluminum? L part with a capped piece of maybe 1/2 copper tube with a flared end? Or any size of iron pipe? 1/4? 3/8? Take it apart and post a pic for us??? I tell ya, I'm dying to see what the design of this connection doodad is! And there are a lot better engineers than I on this forum who might weigh in...

Tear that sucka apart and put some pics on here for us Curious Georges, pullleease!!???? :worship: Nodrog

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:39 pm
by ACK
Looks like the same thing is on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/GR-600L-Caravan- ... merReviews

This from the customer questions. Answered by "seller"

Here are product descriptions and listings for hose, regulator and hose barb to pipe adapter.
PRO 1 Fuel Line Hose 7/16 Inch Inside Diameter X 5 Feet Length NRB/PVCC SAE30R6
https://www.amazon.com/Fuel-Inside-Diam ... 17&sr=8-2&
keywords=7%2F16+fuel+hose
Mr. Heater Propane Low Pressure Regulator
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Propan ... +regulator
Then you will need a 3/8 NPT Close nipple, a 3/8 to 7/16 reducing bushing and then a 7/16 male npt to 7/16 hose barb. These are usually available at most hardware stores, Lowes, Home Depot or auto parts supply, they can help you select the correct or alternate parts. Secure hose to barbs on stove and regulator with clamps. Use plumbers Teflon thread sealant on all threaded connections then check for leaks with soap bubbles.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need more help.

Re: stove with slip-on propane connection

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:59 am
by Richrad
Thanks to all, especially Ack for the shopping list! And to nodrog (just so you can sleep at night): that tube sits in a sort of saddle clamp, which seals with a small O-ring against a hole in the burner casting. No chewing gum :lol: