QueticoBill wrote:Probably missing your priorities but I backpack and canoe trip with Platypus 4 liter gravity filter. The make a 6. You can also buy the parts I believe. I could imagine the adding "dirty" water in a bag or bucket outside, routing through wall to a filter and then to clean bag or container inside. Or classic tear, just hang it all from hatch.
Works well and quick as long as you back flush evey load. Also let water with lots of sediment/particulate settle 10-15 minutes or prefilled with a mr coffee filter.
QueticoBill wrote:I've always found the filter the speed limiter, not the pump or gravity. And when I pumped, I always used a bucket to collect water and sit in a comfy place and pump from bucket to nalgenes. (still have and use all my bpa nalgenes!) The platypus is similar but I don't pump. Carry water in bucket to camp, let it settle, fill platypus dirty water bag, sit in comfy seat and watch clean bag fill.
QueticoBill wrote:I don't filter wash water or cooking water that will be boiled. 14 gallons is a lot to filter.
Are you trying to pump from lake or river directly? Or bucket brigade to trailer and not lift? a dirty water pump to resivoir high on trailer and then let gravity work. I could see multiple filters for 14 gallons. They still need back flushing or will get very slow.
Have you looked at ultra Violet systems?
QueticoBill wrote:It would depend a lot where you were. Most of my experience is in Boundary Waters where it's a question to filter or just dip and drink. Where there are many other people and you can't see the bottom at 20', I might feel more like you do.
I think a pre-filter might help you in murky waters. Or alum. I heard a renowned camper authority author talk about using alum in the Grand Canyon, very murky water. I don't recall the process but something about the particles clumping and settling faster. Might be worth a Google.
dbhosttexas wrote:QueticoBill wrote:It would depend a lot where you were. Most of my experience is in Boundary Waters where it's a question to filter or just dip and drink. Where there are many other people and you can't see the bottom at 20', I might feel more like you do.
I think a pre-filter might help you in murky waters. Or alum. I heard a renowned camper authority author talk about using alum in the Grand Canyon, very murky water. I don't recall the process but something about the particles clumping and settling faster. Might be worth a Google.
I can't clarify this enough, I live in Texas, and primarily camp in the south / central US, and occasionally in Mexico. We do travel to the PNW but with things like Algae blooms etc... I have serious concerns for water quality...
My primary issue is camping in the national forests in east Texas. Slow moving streams that meander through cattle country.
If I could talk my wife into using a LOT less water, this would NOT be an issue. I am trying to accomodate someone who relishes long hot showers at the end of the day.... The waters from these streams have a visibility of about 1'... Heavily sediment laden, although sediment filters are easily added, heaven only knows what the cattle are leaving in the water upstream...
Honestly, if I could get her to take a quick shower, and learn to on / off the shower head while lathering up etc... and get that shower down to 2 to 3 gallons, then the AquaTainers carried in from home are WAY more than enough for a 4 day weekend trip. Longer than that, we can aways run into town with a water bandit to sources with a reasonable expectation of safe potability....
Socal Tom wrote:dbhosttexas wrote:QueticoBill wrote:It would depend a lot where you were. Most of my experience is in Boundary Waters where it's a question to filter or just dip and drink. Where there are many other people and you can't see the bottom at 20', I might feel more like you do.
I think a pre-filter might help you in murky waters. Or alum. I heard a renowned camper authority author talk about using alum in the Grand Canyon, very murky water. I don't recall the process but something about the particles clumping and settling faster. Might be worth a Google.
I can't clarify this enough, I live in Texas, and primarily camp in the south / central US, and occasionally in Mexico. We do travel to the PNW but with things like Algae blooms etc... I have serious concerns for water quality...
My primary issue is camping in the national forests in east Texas. Slow moving streams that meander through cattle country.
If I could talk my wife into using a LOT less water, this would NOT be an issue. I am trying to accomodate someone who relishes long hot showers at the end of the day.... The waters from these streams have a visibility of about 1'... Heavily sediment laden, although sediment filters are easily added, heaven only knows what the cattle are leaving in the water upstream...
Honestly, if I could get her to take a quick shower, and learn to on / off the shower head while lathering up etc... and get that shower down to 2 to 3 gallons, then the AquaTainers carried in from home are WAY more than enough for a 4 day weekend trip. Longer than that, we can aways run into town with a water bandit to sources with a reasonable expectation of safe potability....
ahh, ok. I see the issue now. I'd say, make sure she is using a low flow shower head for starters. The lowest ones I see are still about 1.5 gpm. Is there a chance you could rig a recirculation system. For example, if she does the wash/rinse and sends that to waste, then if she just wants to stand in the shower after that recirculate the water ?
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