Bread-loaf build thread

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:28 pm

Painting in a day or two after galley doors are ready for paint. No point in having to break out the gear & cleanup paint more times than needed.

Did some more finicky canvassing this afternoon. Did the rear overhang and galley miscellaneous required canvassing with mixed results but it will all buff out or simply look like crap ! Need to trim canvas on left post. Gave the completed door outside a coat of TB II for ding resistance (no bubbles !!) & will do the same on the inside face later today.

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby GoTurtleGo » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:32 pm

The door and galley look great. Your trucking along at a good rate!
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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:16 pm

Thanks GoTurtleGo, trying to get the outside all closed up so I can make it to next Friday's Walk the Winds Gathering Wyoming but it's going to be a close run thing. Still have to do the Galley doors, apply several coats of paint, and apply all the hardware (hinges, knobs, locks) and whatever else ...

If it's not ready to go by next Thurday, it won't be going this year. Just finished prepping the foam for cutting - tomorrow I build the galley doors, next day canvas, and so on...
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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:23 pm

Slow progress today. Cut the foam to size. Left extra gap at "bottom" for threshold.

Tried to find 1x2 inch actual size (not .75"x1.5") lumber and struck out calling around. Don't have a table saw so trying to cut 1x lumber down is not going to work well. messed around trying to cut plywood to size w/ a circular saw & jigsaw and gave that up. Went to various stores looking for something to use and came across "shoe molding" which is like an elongated quarter-round that would work well enough and bought the required lengths.

Finally, a half-assed solution. :R :R

Cut the 1x2s & shoe molding down to size and glued & brad-nailed the pieces. Need to rout the foam & the cut the insert wood supports for hinges, lock, & drop down shelves and then tomorrow I can do most (all?) of the glue-up hopefully.

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby GPW » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:26 am

A creative solution !!! :thumbsup:
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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:03 pm

Still working on galley doors but seems likely I will finish up the prep and canvas them tomorrow. Lots of inset wood in front and back times two. Just finishing up the supports for the drop down shelves on the back side of the door right now and then the glue up / fill all the mistakes Great Stuff step.

Also got my friend to weld the fenders back on and will need to put something on the interior of the wheel wells like rubber from mud flaps to keep the water from spraying all over the TD. Fender fit is very good if a tad tight.

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby S. Heisley » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:21 pm

It's looking good, Fred! :thumbsup:
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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby mikeschn » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:35 pm

You could have bought a table saw for $99 and opened up a whole new world of building...

But alas, you found that shoe molding! :lol:

It's looking good though!

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:07 pm

mikeschn wrote:You could have bought a table saw for $99 and opened up a whole new world of building...

But alas, you found that shoe molding! :lol:

It's looking good though!

Mike...


Heh, and then a CNC, and the tables for both and a new larger garage workshop and a dust vac system, more clamps, more tools ... pretty soon I would be getting lots of practice making sawdust furniture, siding, stairways, decks .... oh wait - that means less time camping and fishing .... never mind :lol: :R :R

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:04 pm

So far, so good. Did the galley door shelf supports. Thought I would show how I use the nylon-dry-wall-screws. Pretty hard to keep the wood in place with Great Stuff trying to foam it out of the routed slots - perfect for the dry wall screws !

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby mikeschn » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:37 pm

So instead you used GG. Looks like you had no problems keeping the wood in the slot. I'll have to keep that in mind next time I need to fill a slot with GG and wood.

Mike...

P.S. Just wondered, are you using the mix for all the pieces of wood you are adding to your build?

Fred Trout wrote:So far, so good. Did the galley door shelf supports. Thought I would show how I use the nylon-dry-wall-screws. Pretty hard to keep the wood in place with Great Stuff trying to foam it out of the routed slots - perfect for the dry wall screws !

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:09 pm

Used great stuff (GS) - foam in a can void & crack filler fomula (cheapest). [ I previously used up all my GG but never liked it - would foam well in one spot and do bupkis an inch over so I decided it was too hard to get it to foam evenly unlike GS]. GS can push the center out if you put too much there but it's easier to control for that than GG. I use rowerwet's technique of squirting the GS onto a palette and massage it into the consistency of peanut butter and then use a Bondo thingee to apply it. Basically, I now use GS for everything that TB II and Gripper is not any good for.

I use 'the mix' on any wood that could possibly be exposed to water. These two particular supports are in the middle of the back side (inside) of the galley doors under canvas, TB II & paint, so no mix on em. If they get wet, it's because my foamie got swept away in a flood and the doors got torn off :R :R I also fill all cracks (edges between wood pieces, wood and foam, etc) with caulk so water can't get in easily.

Gripper - tight join, panel to panel, panel to metal -- sands harder than foam (EPS Styrofoam)
Great Stuff - lots of voids, loose join, edge to panel, wood to foam, foam to foam, fill big holes --- sands easily, about same a foam in density
TB II - canvas to foam, wood to wood, tight join
GG - don't use it anymore even tho it works well. -- sands harder than foam
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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby mikeschn » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:38 am

When you say Gripper, do you mean the Glidden Gripper primer?

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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby Fred Trout » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:53 am

mikeschn wrote:When you say Gripper, do you mean the Glidden Gripper primer?

Mike...


Indeed !! Very nice stuff where your joint is tight but a tad spendy around here - $22 a gallon if I recall vs $17 for TB II and $4 for Great Stuff gap & crack large can. I assume there are some other equally very thick latex PVA primers out there but that's the one others have recommended and I have tested with outstanding success. The other primers like BullsEye 1-2-3 are not all that much cheaper anyway.

The Rustoleum '1 part epoxy' cement and block primer was the same $22 price but I have not cracked that can yet so dunno if its anything special. Should know shortly though.
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Re: Bread-loaf build thread

Postby GPW » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:04 pm

Fred, nice job on the little overhang in the back ... that will go a long way at keeping water out the back ... :thumbsup: 8) :applause:
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