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Re: #1

Postby KCStudly » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:30 am

That is probably what happened with my license plate area. :NC
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Re: #1

Postby GPW » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:48 am

KC, Try putting it on dry into the wet glue ... as if you were gluing on paper ...
If it was mine , I’d use some thin ( 2 oz.) fiberglass cloth and T2 for the license plate niche .... much easier to mould to shape and it’s not a high stress area anyway , free from the sock effect of the overall covering ... We found fiberglass and canvas play nicely together when used with T2 as the “resin” , which in reality it’s just a water based aliphatic “resin” ... same “glue” , different solvent ... :thinking:
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:35 pm

Another week off, hope to get some foamie work done.... :thumbsup:
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Re: #1

Postby Shar » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:01 am

Looking good, GH! Charge ahead...
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:12 pm

Well I was hoping to get started on the foamie earlier this week than I did. Well at least I finally got to it.

So in canvasing the other side of the trailer earlier I decided to improve on the technique. It is just me working so I needed a easy way to apply canvas solo. Last time I wound up using a 2"x4"x8' and a 1"x2"x8' and though it worked really well the 8' lengths were just a bit short and I did have to work with the ends a bit.

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Getting ready
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Inter the new technique. I purchased a 2"x4"x10' and a piece of 1 1/4" PVC pipe in a 10' length. I placed the 2"x4"x10' on top of the trailer along the side to be canvased.

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10' 2"x4" in place
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Then I draped the canvas over the 2"x4"x10' and marked 4" from the bottom for alignment marks.

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Alignment marks
Alignment marks
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:21 pm

Now I aligned the alignment marks to the bottom of the trailer. I just played with the canvas until I got all the alignment marks even along the bottom and the canvas nicely laying down the side.

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Alignment mark lined up
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I used tacks to hold the canvas to the 2"x4"x10' once I got the alignment marks aligned. I tacked the ends first pulling just slightly so that the canvas was tight, but not stretched.

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Tacks
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Then I used masking tape to tape the canvas to the 1 1/4"x10' PVC pipe. Again starting at the ends and pulling slightly.

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1 1/4" x 10' PVC pipe
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:29 pm

So now I just rolled up the canvas to the top and placed it on top of the trailer.

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Canvas rolled up and ready for deployment
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I used clamps and 1/4" rope to support and lower the canvas as needed. I tied to the 2"x4"x10' and then went around the PVC and back up to the camp, which was a anchor point for the rope.

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Clamps and rope used for deployment
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I then got my items ready and in easy reach.

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Needed items for deployment
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:47 pm

I will go over the technique again here so it flows well.

I find that thinning the TBII 50/50 with water works really good for this technique. It allows the glue to get into the canvas and it dries slower, which in my case is good since I am working alone and it is a bit slow going. I find that by time I go through a complete cycle that the glue is getting tacky. When it is tacky it seems to grip and hold better once the two glued surfaces come together.

To get started I applied glue to the canvas as it was sitting on top of the trailer and then glue to the top portion on the side of the trailer. I am working with a 4" brush and I try to apply the glue two brush widths wide at one time. This applies enough glue to the side of the trailer to allow for how much glue I apply to the canvas. I also apply to the canvas first and then to the side of the trailer. This cuts down on glue running down the side and the glue getting too tacky. Then I just rolled the canvas of the top off the trailer. The rope should hold it now.

Now it is glue the canvas as far around the roll as I can.

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Painting the canvas
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Once the canvas is glued it is time to apply glue to the wall.

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Wall and canvas painted
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I make sure that the canvas weave is filled with glue as pictured.

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Canvas saturated
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:56 pm

Once I roll out the glued canvas onto the glued wall I then spray the canvas with water. This will help the canvas relax so you can roll the creases out.

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Spraying water
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Then I use a small paint roller to roll the canvas down. I start in the middle and roll in a downward 45 degree direction. The idea is to push canvas down and towards the edges. Then I roll from middle to ends and from top to bottom. Sometimes you can actually see the roller pushing bubbles and the canvas moving out as you approach the ends, especially once you get near the bottom.

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Rolling the canvas
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Then it is repeat the processes until I get to the bottom. It took me 2 1/2 hours from start to finish. So far I have only used a half gallon of TBII.

A shot of the process near done.

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Nearly done
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:02 pm

This side came out even better than my first attempt.

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Finished
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Finished #2
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Re: #1

Postby OP827 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:36 pm

It is Perfect, George! :thumbsup: I like the roll down tube and rope system idea. It must made the work so much more controllable.
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:56 pm

OP827 wrote:It is Perfect, George! :thumbsup: I like the roll down tube and rope system idea. It must made the work so much more controllable.

Yes it worked out quite well. :thumbsup:
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:19 pm

Today was prepping the roof for canvas and finishing the edges on the side. Worked on the vent fairing during the day between other tasks. Spackle, sand, paint, spackle, sand, paint.

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Vent before
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Vent after
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Postby ghcoe » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:23 pm

Most of the day was cutting and gluing the edges down.

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Before gluing
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After gluing
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Hatch area
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:26 pm

Door, window...

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Door
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Window
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