Bullet Tear

Canvas covered foamies (Thrifty Alternatives...)

Moderator: eaglesdare

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby GPW » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:05 pm

Laura, Exactly ... hopefully the math wouldn’t be too complicated , more like a drawing an arc to the correct radius and measuring .. :thinking:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14911
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby Mary C » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:05 pm

See yall just go to too much trouble I use a hammer to drive the nail in and a string attached to the nail and a pencil on the other end then just make the circle and then cut in half and ya got it. I don't worry about the math just cut the string so it will go in half. Course my brother asked if i used pie but I tole him I ate it. I knowed it was peanut butter and chocolate. I still am not sure about the arc on mine I just drew it and applied the blade. sometimes it is not worth all the hours trying to figure out all the math I coulda had it cut by then. You gotta know when to wing it. I was taught that by a mechanical engineer who was a perfectionist but used the string because it was faster and just as accurate in the long run. Note I didn't mention names in regard to the Width vs height but since we don't know where she is from and I am sure .......Doesn't the wind blow everywhere on occasion then we will assume that it does apply to everyone.

seriously I know that it could be done and what were you talking about backer on the foam??? I am confused about that,,,,I know it doesn't take much.........

Mary C. :lady:
User avatar
Mary C
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1776
Images: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:29 pm
Location: Waco, Georgia

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby lthomas987 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:29 pm

When I wanted curves for the little bike trailer I am working on I used two screws and a yardstick. I ran them both through the yardstick with the radius I wanted beween them, then sunk one in the foam a bit and used the other to etch the curve.

But if a person, say like Juan and C5 shark, really wanted to build a half dome out of foam it could be done out of flat sheets if you knew the angle you needed to set your saw blade at and the diameters of the circles involved to get the right rings. Really with very very little waste. A hot wire jigsaw like thing would be really helpful. Especially you could tilt the table to cut at the angle you needed, and since I'm not a steady hand I might set a pivot in my foam which would require a bigger table.. but probably worth it.

Now I want to do that. Dang it! This guy is doing it with hardwood and making a bowl. But the concept would be largely the same with foam. http://bobhamswwing.com/Articles/economy/TRUE%20ECONOMY.htm

If you want a 60" wide half-circle you could cut it out of 4x8 foam. :thinking: I'd want to cut it from a sheet of the thickest foam I could find which is 4" to reduce the number of rings. 24" tall in 2" foam would require cutting 12 rings. 3" foam would take 8 rings. 4" foam only 6.
Laura
Bike-Drop a Micro-Foamy Build Journal http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=59274
My first Superlegarra-ish Foamy build http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=59049
User avatar
lthomas987
Donating Member
 
Posts: 357
Images: 204
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:41 pm
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby Mary C » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:13 pm

Laura I think I scared him off, I guess I was a little hard on him but I really think it could be done and am excited about another build. . I have been working on mine and and got an interesting idea then came in and you had described it. I will go back and work..........
Mary C.
User avatar
Mary C
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1776
Images: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:29 pm
Location: Waco, Georgia
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby Catherine+twins » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:56 pm

GPW wrote:KC, I think Catherine’s incident was a turning point for all of us , when the Foamie part survived so well .. and the Steel was the part that was bent ... :o :roll: Up till then , no one really knew about Foamie’ durability ... An unfortunate and precautionary tale , but a confirmation of the structure and concept ... ;) For which we are grateful !


Let me take a moment to admit that the teardrop-curved roof on Penguino1 wasn't done with 2-inch foam and kerfs. I actually used 3/4 inch foam for the roof, making the rash leap of faith that the curve and the skin would strengthen the thinner foam. (It did have pine 1x1 ribs. The new one has a flat 2-inch foam roof and no ribs.) And as noted, the foam box survived fine, even with the thinner foam. Bending it was tedious (mostly using the weight of the foam itself, three sheets spliced along the long side since my cabin was 5 ft wide) , but leaving the plastic skin on the outside of the curve made all the difference! Once the GG was dry I stripped the plastic off and skinned with canvas.

All of which is to say, I think the OP's front curve could be done with 3/4-foam, butted up to a thicker foam on the walls. If extra strength is wanted or needed, a second layer of the 3/4-in foam could be curved over the first.

Catherine

p.s. My trailer is on backorder! :cry: But the week of April 4 is my kids' spring break, so assuming the trailer gets here we will be screwing and gluing up a storm!
Build Thread Penguino II: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=54919
Build Thread Penguino I: viewtopic.php?t=44431
Image
"Oh, let's just stay here and sing camp songs for a while." 1966, My mom in Isle Royale, MN, in a women's bath house with a momma bear and two cubs outside the door, and three tired kids trapped inside
"Dad! Dad! There's a bear outside!" 1967, Lolo Hot Springs, MT, in a tent-top trailer
"Oh, no, there it goes!!" Nov 10, 2012 as Penguino I blew over in high winds
User avatar
Catherine+twins
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 478
Images: 124
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:43 pm
Location: Northern New Mexico
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby grantstew8 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:37 am

118461

These were some ideas I was kicking around for version II which I've abandoned for the time being.
If you number them from the left to right 1,2,3 and 4.
2 was my favorite a basic boat hull shape with gull wing doors to get in and a rear hatch.
1 and 3 had some merits similar to 2.
4 where the central lid would lift up like tailgate of a hatchback but though it was impractical to build and use.

Just ideas for the pot.....

:beer: :beer: :beer:
User avatar
grantstew8
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 448
Images: 77
Joined: Tue May 28, 2013 5:26 pm
Location: Dunfermline, Scotland
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby GPW » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:58 am

Grant , all Great ideas (aesthetically) , and very workable , but such things as gull wing doors , tailgates and hatchbacks do make things problematic to construct and seal :frightened: ... practices we’ve long abandoned in favor of overhangs and simple standard doors on the rear (Much easier, and more practical in the long run ) ... And a small (easy to install ) side cargo door wouldn’t be a bad idea , used as a loading hatch , emergency door , or a spot for the AC unit ... :thinking: No reason it can’t be a bullet and still be practical , and fairly easy to construct ... I offer the FoamStream as an example ... That worked out just Fine !!! Did it all by myself ... :D

The inverted Boat does seem to be a Very Good shape for trailer cabins .... It works in water eh , and likely similar in the thinner fluid atmosphere... A shape I’m working on with the Zephyr , the next Foamie’ build ... just an inverted flatboat ... sorta’ ... SIMPLE , yet streamline, easy to make ... like a boat ... :beer:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14911
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby juanrc24 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:40 pm

Gull-wing doors I like that idea! :thumbsup:
John
juanrc24
Teardrop Inspector
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:01 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby grantstew8 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:48 pm

For version 4, this was my idea of how it opened. A little like a 1970 sci-fi pod.
Thanks for all the positive feedback
:beer:

118462
User avatar
grantstew8
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 448
Images: 77
Joined: Tue May 28, 2013 5:26 pm
Location: Dunfermline, Scotland
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby C5shark » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:06 pm

Catherine hasn't scared me off, I've just been busy with other things. I like the ideas! I've drawn up a few other ideas, which should be a little simpler to build than what I had posted up before (especially for a fine time build) and easy enough to fit a reasonable side door.

I'll post the latest sketch I'm favoring when I get home from work, but I designed it around the idea that the TV is blocking air on the lower portion of the trailer and went with two simple curves for the roof. Because I'm not planning to have a galley, it's hatchless and I've been playing around with the idea of semi-truck style "trailer tails", which if the airflow will stay attached to the body, should help reduce the size of the low pressure zone (drag) behind the trailer.

The one good thing about building light is that if it's too light and stability suffers, it's easy enough to just add beer for ballast!
C5shark
Teardrop Inspector
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:24 pm
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby juanrc24 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:46 pm

In floor kegerator!?
John
juanrc24
Teardrop Inspector
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:01 pm
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby twinight » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:12 pm

grantstew8 wrote:For version 4, this was my idea of how it opened. A little like a 1970 sci-fi pod.
Thanks for all the positive feedback
:beer:

118462

There was a F117 themed teardrop that was at Lake Perris gathering over the weekend. It had a cockpit hatch opening much like the rendering. I'll post up some pictures tonight.
118546
118547
Last edited by twinight on Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
twinight
Teardrop Advisor
 
Posts: 51
Images: 68
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:01 am
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby GPW » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:56 pm

What if it’s raining ??? :frightened:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14911
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby C5shark » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:56 pm

What I might end up going with, sticking to similar dimensions, it's 5x8x4. The tail section is 24" long and would be an add-on, I'm thinking it could be hinged and folding.

Image

Image

Image
C5shark
Teardrop Inspector
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:24 pm
Top

Re: Bullet Tear

Postby GPW » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:01 am

Just saying , if you round over the edges it will Look more “bullet” even if not exactly round ... :thinking:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14911
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Foamies

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests