Delamination Lamentation

Canvas covered foamies (Thrifty Alternatives...)

Moderator: eaglesdare

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:06 am

So, I have two question I need help with.
1. The mounting tabs (12) have 1/4" holes. If I use that size carriage bolt and also use the larger holes 1/2" on the cross members, is that enough to keep the floor attached?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:08 am

2. When I am ready to run the electrical wiring should I drill two of the cross member holes larger to fit the water tight tube? Approximately an 1".


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby KCStudly » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:25 am

1. Twelve 1/4 inch fasteners should be plenty. For the half inch holes you will probably want to use "fender washers" to make up the difference in hole size. Fender washers can be relatively thin and it would be easy to tighten them enough that they cup into the holes, so don't be afraid to use a std. 1/4 inch flat washer as well. For the std washer, SAE or USS spec washers tend to be a little sturdier than general purpose hardware store grade.

2. Not sure about that, need more info. You don't want to compromise xmbr strength by taking too much material away. If you are putting a 1 inch dia hole in the middle of the web on a 2 or three inch tall channel, then it is probably okay. If you are doing the same to the leg of a 1-1/2 inch angle then maybe that is pushing it too much. Can you sling the conduit under the frame using U-clips (two hole saddles) and still have enough ground and suspension clearance? If so, that would be the easier way.
KC
My Build: The Poet Creek Express Hybrid Foamie

Poet Creek Or Bust
Engineering the TLAR way - "That Looks About Right"
TnTTT ORIGINAL 200A LANTERN CLUB = "The 200A Gang"
Green Lantern Corpsmen
User avatar
KCStudly
Donating Member
 
Posts: 9611
Images: 8169
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:18 pm
Location: Southeastern CT, USA
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:01 am

Thanks!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:31 am

Short, non-picture update. Bought 2" angle steel pieces at TRS to have welded into the frame as support for the galley area. I will finish priming it when the frame comes back this weekend. Final color for the frame will be black. Pictures soon.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:20 am

Image

Frame is done! Primed. Ready for paint.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby GPW » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:17 am

That’s a Nice trailer !!! :thumbsup: ;)
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14911
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:15 pm

Comments later. I need food.

ImageImageImageImage


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby KCStudly » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:02 pm

That's some soggy toast right there.
KC
My Build: The Poet Creek Express Hybrid Foamie

Poet Creek Or Bust
Engineering the TLAR way - "That Looks About Right"
TnTTT ORIGINAL 200A LANTERN CLUB = "The 200A Gang"
Green Lantern Corpsmen
User avatar
KCStudly
Donating Member
 
Posts: 9611
Images: 8169
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:18 pm
Location: Southeastern CT, USA
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby KennethW » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:40 pm

That is why I like my foam floor it will not rot like that. :thumbsup:
Look like you are coming right along with your rebuild. The hardest part is saying I CAN DO THIS. :wine:
KennethW
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1188
Images: 82
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:01 pm
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:52 pm

Yes, KC, it really was.

So, I started the day slapping some black satin paint onto the unprotected steel (primed) incase it rained early. I now have black satin enamel speckles. :)
Then I cleaned out the garage and made enough room for the trailer and the Nookery shell.


Let me tell you, When GPW builds something to stay together it will.
What should have taken 20-30 minutes took almost two hours. :twisted: :whistle:

I borrowed my neighbor's sawsall. It's old and cranky. I was doing okay until it got away from me. Good thing foam patches so well.
Then everyone of my own cutting tools died, or went missing. I mean Murphy was working overtime. :x

I ended up using a small wood chisel to cut through the inner tape and through the foam as far as I could. It was slow nasty work. Then I got out my trusty saw and cut through everything.
It was slow going because, at the end there were tiny tabs of the inner wraps that held the shell to the floor. Took forever, but I finally could lift all the edges. The young men who mow my lawn came by and helped lift the shell off the old trailer and put it in the garage. :thumbsup:


So, the next steps are to finish painting the frame and getting the floor attached to the trailer. I am debating whether to go ahead and gripper the canvas to the floor sides prior to glueing up the remainder. Why? I would like to make sure the canvas is fully painted up around the edges prior to mounting it on the trailer.

I will also need to trim the remaining canvas to about 8-10 inches.

That's the report for tonight.

Oh, one other thing, in the last delamination picture the glue and canvas where still in great shape. I think part of the issue was the water had no where to go. Interesting thing to think about. :thinking:
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:55 pm

KennethW wrote:That is why I like my foam floor it will not rot like that. :thumbsup:
Look like you are coming right along with your rebuild. The hardest part is saying I CAN DO THIS. :wine:


Today was tough. I really didn't know if I'd be able to get the shell off without ruining it. No worries, though. It's absolutely solid. :thumbsup:
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby KCStudly » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:43 pm

You're a trooper, Bonnie! Good lot of work you did there, and it's nice to know that it is going to work out the way you are planning. :thumbsup:
KC
My Build: The Poet Creek Express Hybrid Foamie

Poet Creek Or Bust
Engineering the TLAR way - "That Looks About Right"
TnTTT ORIGINAL 200A LANTERN CLUB = "The 200A Gang"
Green Lantern Corpsmen
User avatar
KCStudly
Donating Member
 
Posts: 9611
Images: 8169
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:18 pm
Location: Southeastern CT, USA
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby GPW » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:01 am

Gosh !!! I can’t believe that floor ... :o :frightened: :oops: Odd , flooring seems to be the weak point on mostly ALL trailers ... Have to work on that , although I do believe now that board flooring is a better alternative than plywood . Nothing seems more susceptible than plywood except the "oatmeal board" the big buck commercial trailers come with ... breathe on that and it falls apart ... :frightened: ( been there ) :thumbdown:

And the use of a Drip edge to keep most water OFF the floor entirely ... I’m now thinking it’s not the occasional wetting that destroys floors , but the everyday morning dew continually keeping the area wet ... water , eventually finding a way in ... :duh:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14911
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Re: Delamination Lamentation

Postby bonnie » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:59 am

True that!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Remember, the turtle won. :)
User avatar
bonnie
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1389
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:14 pm
Location: Roxana, IL
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Foamies

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests