Furio wrote:Right on,
What year is your Jeep? Mine is a 2010, so I have the smaller engine (2012 was the upgrade). Wondering how it tows,I just took mine out too Yellowstone and those mountain interstates with 80MPH speed limits was a little rough.
Andrew Herrick wrote:I don't have experience or wisdom to offer - just a question!
I've heard some off-roaders like to run the same wheels on their trailers as their vehicles so they can use them all interchangeably. Is this the case, and if so, is it advisable for this builder's situation?
tony.latham wrote:I run LT'-AT's on our 'drop. Radials run noticeably better than bias tires.
It's my understanding that stiff-walled trailer tires are built that way to take the side loads of double axle trailers when in a tight turn.
Exhaust fumes degrading tire rubber? Trailer tires more UV resistant? Is that true?
but ST are still better than LT because the ST's are designed to take side loads,
Grant's built more teardrops than I'll probaly ever see.Mid-grade automotive radial tires ... I've been using them on my teardrops for almost 30 years with never a problem, and always a way better ride ...
Furio wrote:Hello, I have a question regarding trailer tires. My tow vehicle is a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, I would like to possibly use matching tires; Cooper Discoverer ATP 255/75-17. I read everywhere that car tires on a trailer is bad because they have a flexible side wall where as a trailer tire has a much stiffer one. Wouldn't an all terrain tire have a stiff sidewall? I see teardrops sold with all terrain tires on them. Are those for off road only? Is it safe for freeway speeds too?....
I just came to the same conclusion myself, after twenty years of sticking to the "ST for trailers, LT for trucks, P radials on cars" dictum, and arguing with my friends and neighbors about it. Even on this forum. But, after sitting out camping, not using my TTT or hauling loads in my other trailers for over a year, I knew I had to get new tires before I ventured forth, again. I have my TTT suspended in the air, in the garage, so I could inspect (and to keep from flat-spotting) my Carlisle ST bias-ply tires that are 12 years old. They were given to me 5.5 years ago, after having been used for 4 and sitting in a scrap tire pile for 2.5 years (they both had punctures and had been replaced). I counted my lucky stars that they had survived a pothole incident that damaged my 10 year old LT tires on my truck. I sure wasn't going to trust them any longer, so I reviewed my tire history (all the tires I have had, what happened to them, and was I happy with them) covering all my trucks and trailers, for the last 20 or so years. My conclusion was, LT tires had the best record on my trucks (over 300,000 miles and just one flat tire, despite the tire damage from the major pothole incident, those tires didn't go flat!); the ST trailer tires had a mixed record: 1) the Denman tires (made in USA) lasted longest-10 years for 3 before the tread was gone, and one complete shredding for unknown reasons-, 2) the Carlisle USA Trail (made in USA) ST tires- the two on my TTT are still round and inflated, after 12 years, but of the 4 I had on my big trailer, only one (with no tread left) survives as my spare, while a mixed bag of Chinese "SHIELD" brand bias-ply and radials (I needed four, out on the road), 2 and 2 on separate axles, worked fairly well, but the radials' sidewalls have disintegrated while the trailer sits unused in the yard (the bias-ply tires are not flat yet, but I'll not trust them either). As for my wife's trailer tires, Loadstar Radials: they are 9 years old, still hold air, have only 5k lite-duty miles on them, look good. Good enough to sell the unused trailer with! My conclusion is this: the truck LT tires have lived a much harder life, lasted longer per tire, showed no age-or-weather cracking (as seen on many of my ST tires), and have had less flats from road debris (one versus a dozen, including the unknown tire shredding).ST trailer tires, travelled less miles, and were more undependable than LT s. I, nor many of my racing friends, liked ST radials on tandem trailers, due to sway, so all went to bias-ply when able to (some put all their money into their cars!) The summation I arrived at, was to put LT tires on my TTT, since it is the trailer I'll use most, from now on. The LT tire will be able to handle my heavy-ish single axle, both on highway and dirt road, since it is intended as all-terrain (and the tread depth is twice the alternative ST bias-ply I would've chosen), and no doubt will track better on slick or muddy surfaces. I posted similar reasoning for going to LT tires in a post on Exploration Portal http://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/168871-softroad-amp-highway-trailer-tires-ST-bias-ply-vs-radial-or-LT-tire-for-14-quot-wheel In the end, I bought two General Grabber AT 2 27X8.50R14tires. I apologize for trying to sway people to ST tires on their teardrops for so long; I'm converted!tony.latham wrote:but ST are still better than LT because the ST's are designed to take side loads,
Agreed....The reason I went with these LT radials was because of a conversation I had with two tire-fixers that work at the local Les Schwab tire store––they don't sell tires––these are the guys that fix flats and remount tires forty-hours a week for the last many-many years. (This community is agricultural and recreational based with lots of trailers.) Between the two, I'm sure they have over thirty years of fixing busted tires.
I asked these guys: What tires would you guys put on a teardrop that weighed 1300 pounds if it was yours and you didn't want any flats? They looked at each other and spat the same answer out at the same time.
For a single axle trailer, I'll stick to my LT radials.... Tony
Camp4Life wrote: Ask someone who tows a trailer with normal passenger tires on it if they had a tire blow, and which side it was on, and I'll bet you it was on the same side as the exhaust from their vehicle.
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