Sealing a piano type door hinge

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Postby pmowers » Sat May 18, 2013 10:25 am

Jim Marshall wrote:Doug, I used a bicycle intertube behind my Paino hinges and it doesn't leak a drop so far.

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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby Fyddler » Sat May 18, 2013 11:47 am

If only I could find a inner tube 6.5' long
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby nhstt » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:27 am

burlesot wrote:I got my piano hinge on this past weekend. I used butyl tape under the hinges and am planning to install a rubber 'gasket' over the top of the hinge too. Is a bike tire tube the best option for this?

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p.s. I plan to split the tube, mount two strips of aluminum to 'hold' it down. However, one question is should I put a strip of 'wood' under the strips of aluminum to allow the screws to hold onto something? If so, I guess I'll use butyl tape again to cover the aluminum strips so that I don't get any leakage through the screw holes.


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Can you post any pictures :pictures: I'd love to see what your doing. I'll be doing mine on a 1/2" birch ply side as simple as I can :thinking: everything painted with exterior latex in the end.

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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby nhstt » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:38 am

Fyddler wrote:I'm cheap, that's the only reason for me!

And I'm always broke. Got any more hardware store words of wisdom on hatches, doors or homemade windows :worship: :?

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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby Fyddler » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:55 am

My windows were $5.00 garage sale find, so I don't have any home made window advice, except I do remember seeing some designs on the forum somewhere. I havnt done the hatch yet (hopefully In a week or so) but I plan on using a standard piano hinge with a split firehose over the top. The only reason I picked fire hose is because I work at a fire station and there is some old de-commissioned hose available.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby burlesot » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:49 am

Karen,
Take a look at my blog: http://toddsteardropblog.blogspot.com/2013/05/rain-test.html
I've got some photos of the 'gasket' I installed. I went to a local bike shop and they gave me the 'fattest' tire tube you can get. I used butyl tape under the two pieces of aluminum and screwed through the hull into two strips of wood.

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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby prohandyman » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:34 pm

I read this thread quite a while ago, and recently have a new fix. I remodeled our shower last summer and used a rubber underpayment under the tile. Shower pan liner I think they call it. Might be worthy try. A little thicker than an inner tube, and very long.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby prohandyman » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:36 pm

Here is the fix mentioned above.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby prohandyman » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:42 pm

I have quite a bit of this in 5 ft length if anyone needs any. I am getting ready to order some more in 10 ft length as well
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby halfdome, Danny » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:17 pm

I've tried Doug's rip stop nylon idea and found I like using this white 3/8" x 1/8" thick ribbed weather strip.
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I place it mid point on the hinge.
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It's a little thick on Grants bent piano hinges but if I leave the doors shut for about 3 days it flattens out enough that you can shut the door with ease.
From what I've experienced, it doesn't return to it's original thickness.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby IslandStorm62 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:12 am

Are all these solution post installation of the piano hinge? Does anyone have advice for pre-installation? Would like to know if there is a preventive measure to take prior to installing the hinge? Thanks.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby KCStudly » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:31 pm

I plan to have an inner flange, a surround around the door opening on the inside face of the wall, where the seal compresses against the inner face of the door. The rest will be sealed with paint and canvas that wraps around the jamb, and the sill is pitched down to allow water to drain out.

Thus sealing the hinge is immaterial. In fact, my hinges are a lift off style that will allow me to remove my doors at will; just like my Jeep.

I do believe that a drip edge (eyebrow) will be needed over the door to prevent water running into the inner flange and perhaps dripping in when the door is opened.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby Todah Tear » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:45 pm

prohandyman wrote:I have quite a bit of this in 5 ft length if anyone needs any. I am getting ready to order some more in 10 ft length as well
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This stuff can be purchased at Lowes. It is about $5 for a strip that is 1' L x 5' W. I usually put a 3" L X 5'W strip under my hinges even when I use a plastic continuous hinge.

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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby bonnie » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:42 pm

prohandyman wrote:I have quite a bit of this in 5 ft length if anyone needs any. I am getting ready to order some more in 10 ft length as well
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How much? I would need one of each probably.
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Re: Sealing a piano type door hinge

Postby grantstew8 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:08 am

Reading through a build by Gary http://teardropbygary.blogspot.co.uk I followed a link for a continuous hinge. He's in NZ and I an in the uk. A short search later and I found a uk supplier.

These hinges look ideal to make a simple sealed hinge, ( scroll pase the standard piano type hinges. )http://www.albert-jagger.co.uk/Portals/0/010_c1_continhinge.pdf.

rather than additional seals and standard piano hinges, this may be an ideal solution, Depending on price of course :twisted:

As it happens these chaps also seem to supply all kinds of "bits" that I could not find else where.,..no idea of pricing but handy as a reference. http://www.albert-jagger.co.uk. Half my problem finding specialised parts in the uk is getting the specific name of the part to begin a search: there are differences in our English vocabulary us/uk. Aluminum/aluminium is a simple example. I have learned to search for both spellings. ;)
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