Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby KTM_Guy » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:34 pm

Look on Etrailer and they have idler hubs with 8 lugs. If you have breaks you can get drums with 8 lugs.

Did you pull the trailer wheel off and measure from the face of the hub to the wall of the camper? What is that measurement? Also what is the the bore on the wheel?

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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby KCStudly » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:34 pm

Jeep wheels do fit the std Dexter (and clone) D30 and D35 drum brake hubs. It's as if they were made for each other. That's what I have on TPCE.
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby rebar » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:10 pm

KTM_Guy wrote:Look on Etrailer and they have idler hubs with 8 lugs. If you have breaks you can get drums with 8 lugs.

Did you pull the trailer wheel off and measure from the face of the hub to the wall of the camper? What is that measurement? Also what is the the bore on the wheel?

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I don't own a trailer yet.. But from what Iv gathered I should order the trailer with 5200# axles, or what ever it took to get 8x6.5 if I do buy new. Then buy 3500# leafs not to tear the trailer up because it will weigh in close to 7000#.

Problem is, I'm not happy with any companies version of yester year's narrow track enclosed trailer. And also second guessing myself about dual axle..
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby KCStudly » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:37 pm

I may be wrong, but I think leaf springs are rated by the pair. So a couple of 3500 lb springs support 3500 lbs. I would be happy to be corrected by a legitimate information source.

I have YJ leaf springs under my trailer and they are quite flexible at a 1750 lb rating, even on the bare trailer frame; so I am convinced that they would not support 3500 lbs combined.

Hope that makes sense.
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby TossingLead » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:31 pm

Just make sure the off-sets match, you don't want to change the load on the bearings.


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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby Padilen » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:36 pm

Different Jeeps have different rims. Some may fit some may not. Compare your rims & axle for bolt pattern , center hole and sping clearance.


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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby KCStudly » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:05 am

My roll around set of Jeep wheels is off of a XJ (Cherokee), which I believe are the same offset (...and pattern and hub center) as the stock TJ steel wheels. They have a bit of back spacing past zero offset and clear my side wall by about 3/4 inch. My aftermarket aluminum wheels (ARE Mojave) have the same bolt pattern and hub hole diameter with a bit less back spacing (I think they are zero or close to zero offset) and provide about 1-1/2 inches of sidewall clearance with a 10.5 spec width 31x15 inch tire.

I guess what I am saying is, a 4x4 truck rim has a much better chance of having a larger hub diameter opening (due to the typical front drive axle hub size), so is more likely to be compatible with big bearing/big brake trailer hubs.

Smaller wheels with the typical 5 on 4-1/2 lug pattern, such as from early MOPAR or Ford car application, like a Mustang or Falcon (some imports?, etc.) are less likely to fit the hub, even of a lower rated axle.

By all means, do as much homework and research on the topic as you can to avoid costly misfits.
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby KTM_Guy » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:59 am

The OP said he is looking at 7000# and maybe a tandem axle. From what I have read, no first hand experience with weights like that you should stick with trailer tires with a stiffer side wall. even more important with a tandem axle.

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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby KCStudly » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:53 pm

Yup. All of the discussion was mostly about wheels, not tires.
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby rebar » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:38 am

KTM_Guy wrote:The OP said he is looking at 7000# and maybe a tandem axle. From what I have read, no first hand experience with weights like that you should stick with trailer tires with a stiffer side wall. even more important with a tandem axle.

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That's a good point Todd. The 16" tires I currently run on my truck have a load capacity of 3400# which doesn't leave me any redundancy with a target weight of 6000# on a single axle.
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby cwegga » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:59 pm

You could always cheat and use the same axle as your truck... though that's not very appropriate for heavier duty or dual axle applications.

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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby MickinOz » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:39 pm

A note for Aussies reading this thread. In most circunstances , wheel spacers are illegal in Australia. At best, you could find yourself rocking a yellow canary, at worst you could find yourself in an accident with voided insurance.
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Re: Running the same wheels as on the truck? Offset

Postby Onajourney » Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:45 am

Maybe I am over simplify this but, I am just getting 5x4.5 to 5x5 adapter wheel spacers to run 35s on my trailer that are same as my Jeep. BTW I am using flexride 2,000 lb.torsion axles.
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