HandiCramper

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HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:19 pm

I am finally back to the build after reading several threads over and over; Getting more confused i may Need another hard drive for the notes I keep loosing, started a build after seeing a relatives utility trailer, but I wanted a light lowrider &
had a lot of leftover Aluminum (Horder) :oops:


I know my build would have been easier & maybe cheaper to start with many other methods I have seen here, trying to use what I have because it will be easier to move on wheels, :NC


Cheap 110 version. With solar eventually.
3500 Lb, spindals / 2000 Lb springs
Yep found that budget A/C tube set up so those holes need to go somewhere.
Oregon Rules under 1800 Lb I hope :lol:

And a drawing because my shop is as messy as some of the others around here :applause:
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Re: HandiCramper

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Re: HandiCramper

Postby tony.latham » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:03 am

Without photos, it's impossible ––at least for me-- to understand what you have going here.

Maybe that's just me. :thinking:

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Postby Pmullen503 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:17 am

Try clicking the link.
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Re: HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:38 am

Pmullen503 wrote:Try clicking the link.


I believe Tony was referring to my narrative! Even my English teacher hatted me :roll:

I will take another picture soon, but things are scattered!

PM: I did go through your hole tread this morning and enjoyed it, Thank you for the read, links for latch with inside release, and the tent stuff, the aerodynamic tubing popes out for the racks but I will have to trip on it before that happens Indeed its tight; The recommendation of double doors & the mileage at 70 will need no more comparison. Thanks for the tips! I drive around California partially because of their 55 with trailer laws. Thank you for sharing your link!
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Postby tony.latham » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:52 am

I believe Tony was referring to my narrative! Even my English teacher hatted me :roll:


And I hated English. And now I write books. What the heck? :frightened:

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Re: HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:08 pm

My frame to floor has a security of 6 bolts to attach, but I have heard of this attaching method of gluing other projects; the tensile, shear specs in details are all Greek to me but have read several examples where no bolting required, I wouldn't be comfortable doing that. I figure I have 832" of area that can be glued and this is my number one pick at this time. I am confident the glue would be far stronger then the bolts and it will make a very strong and ridged base to build up. I believe ridged will be good?
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Re: HandiCramper

Postby tony.latham » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:06 pm

I am confident the glue would be far stronger then the bolts and it will make a very strong and ridged base to build up.


You will be gluing to the paint and thus relying on the paint's bond to the steel, not the strength of the glue. :frightened:

Six 3/8" bolts won't fail. :thumbsup:

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Re: HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:18 pm

tony.latham wrote:
I am confident the glue would be far stronger then the bolts and it will make a very strong and ridged base to build up.


You will be gluing to the paint and thus relying on the paint's bond to the steel, not the strength of the glue. :frightened:

Six 3/8" bolts won't fail. :thumbsup:

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I totally understand and appreciate your concern. No, bare steel to a shiny aluminum surface, here are the extra bolted connections that wont be seen again until I am ready to permanently join the two. I guess I can easily drill the holes to 3/8" :lol:
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Re: HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:57 pm

And here are the obligatory Messy shop Pictures, With a little spare wheel, tire and spindal from a long gone boat that started this project,
and I won't be using it. :lol:
Mock up of front 20* radius 4' off floor with old crusty stuff that was hidden somewhere. And quickly determining I don't have enough clamps.
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Postby tony.latham » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:01 pm

No, bare steel to a shiny aluminum surface,...


For some reason, I had a photo of a rusty red chassis in my head....

:thumbsup:

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Re: HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:44 pm

tony.latham wrote:
No, bare steel to a shiny aluminum surface,...


For some reason, I had a photo of a rusty red chassis in my head....

:thumbsup:

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That would be my car.

Did some Calculator math because I suck at that too, I will leave the bolts in place and 5/16" alone! The shear stress with the glue-able area mentioned previously 832 inches on the trailer frame and the glues 2.5 MPa Using a internet calculator & enter says 301184 PSI Yes when I said permanent I was serious! here is the calculator.

https://www.westyorkssteel.com/technica ... alculator/
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Re: HandiCramper

Postby Pmullen503 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:41 pm

Spend a little time reading up on galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals. There are some simple things you can do to reduce or prevent it. Make sure you can at least easily inspect or replace the frame to body bolts.
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Re: HandiCramper

Postby twisted lines » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:14 pm

Pmullen503 wrote:Spend a little time reading up on galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals. There are some simple things you can do to reduce or prevent it. Make sure you can at least easily inspect or replace the frame to body bolts.


Thank you for that. Something that can sneak up and ruin more then just a day, Bolts are an easy job, It's the getting up after laying on ground that wont be.
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