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galley lid supports

Postby Roddy Riggs » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:53 pm

I know I've seen them on this post before (don't remember where or when). does anyone have some ideas, pictures, diagrams, etc. showing supports to hold open the galley lid. Thanks.
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Postby Sam I am » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:41 am

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I used these supports from Allegis Hardware (#6228 - $9.90 each). They lock when you raise the hatch. Raising it a little more unlocks the supports to close the hatch. A pair of holes lines up in the open position so you can insert a pin as a safety lock. That way a gust of wind can't raise the hatch and unlock the supports. They work well.
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Postby Duane King » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:27 am

Some people use pistons to help raise and hold their galley hatch. (Just like the rear door of a mini-van). Many people use poles or sticks to prop their hatch. I'm not sure how far along you are on your build, but I would suggest that whatever method you ultimately use, you take the time to engineer it properly before skinning your rear hatch. The best time to check for exact hole placement is before the hatch is even built. You could make a pattern of the profile of the lid and then do some trial and error testing to get the perfect drill points or anchor points for whatever you choose to use. With this pattern up in the air, you will know exactly how much room you will have to stand under your hatch. Then as you proceed to build your hatch, before it is skinned, you can place the hatch into place and check the fit and clearance of everything in your galley. This can be a little tricky since most hinge systems are applied last over the finished skin of the hatch. So if you pre-fit a hatch that is only framework, it will not be hinged to the trailer. But I think being able to see through the door frame to maximize storage in the galley while also avoiding geometry errors is very important.

Perhaps someone else could post a link to piston-type lifting hardware and discuss some of the pros and cons of this type of door hardware?

As for me, on my trailer I copied the simple sliding brace that is used by Camp-Inn on their teardrops. Like most things on their trailer, the design is elegantly simple and reliable. Check out their web-site for pictures and a little video of how it works.

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Postby Gerdo » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:31 pm

I used the lift to lock type. Other then having to lift the whole hinged weight without assistance they are great.
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Postby TPMcGinty » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:26 pm

Sam I am wrote:http://www.tnttt.com/gallery/image.php?image_id=13425
I used these supports from Allegis Hardware (#6228 - $9.90 each). They lock when you raise the hatch. Raising it a little more unlocks the supports to close the hatch. A pair of holes lines up in the open position so you can insert a pin as a safety lock. That way a gust of wind can't raise the hatch and unlock the supports. They work well.


I asked Allegis for a quote for a couple of these supports but I haven't heard back yet. Maybe since I only want two they are taking their time. They seem to be geared to selling to companies and not individuals. Do you have any other place to buy these supports or did you get them directly from Allegis? Thanks for your help.
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Postby raprap » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:36 pm

I use two gas struts off of a wrecked Ford Explorer to assist lifting my hatch. Above 60 degF the struts can support the lid, below that temperature, it requires a little help. I carry a six foot piece of EMT with rubber feet on both ends to hold the lid in the up position, but at least I don't have to heft the entire weight of the lid while lifting, so I can't complain.

BTW I got the gas struts and two small scissors jacks that I placed under Dogtown Too's rear bumper as leveling jacks all for $8 at the junkyard.

BTW thanks for the allegis lead lots of good stuff there.

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Postby TPMcGinty » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:20 am

Gerdo, Where did you get your lift to lock supports? I want to buy a set. Thanks for your help.
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Postby asianflava » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:21 am

Probably won't happen as fast as when using gas struts but, the screw holes will eventually elongate from the opening and closing. Wind hitting the hatch when it is open will also do it. I had to put some epoxy and fiberglass cloth on the areas where the screw holes went into the wood.
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Postby Unkl Ron » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:19 am

Here's an example of a gasless support that has a bracket attachment only on the lid, that won't loosen up with use. It works really slick if you get the balance point right.
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Postby Gerdo » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:58 am

TPMcGinty wrote:Gerdo, Where did you get your lift to lock supports? I want to buy a set. Thanks for your help.


These are the ones that I'm using. I think that this is the model I'm using. They also have Gas springs
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Postby TPMcGinty » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:46 pm

Gerdo wrote:
TPMcGinty wrote:Gerdo, Where did you get your lift to lock supports? I want to buy a set. Thanks for your help.


These are the ones that I'm using. I think that this is the model I'm using. They also have Gas springs


Thanks Gerdo. I just ordered a set like yours.
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Postby Gerdo » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:25 pm

Glad to help.
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Postby Gerdo » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:44 pm

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Postby dwgriff1 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:26 pm

I am going to work with a variation of Uncle Ron's system. I think it is lighter and cheaper. I will figure a way to anchor it on both ends, in case the wind blows.

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Postby Nitetimes » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:23 pm

Mine is simply 2 pieces of half inch conduit one on either side. I put a door stop on the counter and the tube slides over that and into a modified copper tubing standoff.
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