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boxcar wrote:Actualy Paul is partialy correct. Independent suspension does help the on road ride. (Not a bad thing) But it's the offroad articulation that I was refering to. Leaf spring suspensions are not capable of the same type or rainge of articulation that a well designed independent system is.
StormRider wrote:I wouldn't call the pictured rigs highly modified, your talking about less than $4k in suspension modifications and wheels. Now this is highly modified :)
boxcar wrote:I guess I should have used the words : idependent traval rather than articulation in reference to trailers...
I noticed that you posted pics of highly modded jeeps (cool) as your refrences to articulation and then compare them to stock independent rides. I beg to differ .... I will post pics of a fue highly modded independents later to give us a true comparison....
eamarquardt wrote:StormRider wrote:I wouldn't call the pictured rigs highly modified, your talking about less than $4k in suspension modifications and wheels. Now this is highly modified :)
Not to quibble, bicker, or otherwise disgree but for me 4K in suspension mods equals "highly modified" (or at least my checking balance would be highly modified after writing the checks). I'd like to understand and appreciate what constitutes highly modified in your book.
eamarquardt wrote:Clearly, we agree to disagree, but we don't have to be disagreeable about it!
eamarquardt wrote:I gather "articulation" is the difference in postion (height) of one (front or rear) wheel to the wheel (front or rear) on the opposite side of the vehicle and solid axles are capable of considerable articulation even though the wheels are connected by a solid axle. Articulation is the ability to keep both wheels(front or rear) in contact with the ground at the same time and is not dependant on the two wheels ability to move independantly of another? Do I have the right idea?
Steve F wrote:Why is there an assumption that there is no flex in the leaf spring on the side that hits the bump and lots of rebound, you cant have the rebound with no movement in the spring in the first place Wink In fact a leaf spring is less likely to have a lot of rebound as the friction between the leafs reduces rebound, a coil spring has no friction and is much more likely to rebound and goes nuts without a shock. You can get away without a shock on leaf springs but ideally you have supple long leaf pack designed for the weight of the TD and stick on some shocks.
Steve F wrote:My offroad TD runs leaf springs and its also due to simplicity and easy of repair etc. I've driven for over 3000kms here in Australia without seeing any sealed roads and some of those unsealed roads were terrible. Bulldust and corrugations will tear anything apart if care isn't taken or you drive at the wrong speed for the terrain, the advantage of leaf springs is if something does go wrong it's easily fixed on the trail or in the bush.
Cheers
Steve
StormRider wrote:eamarquardt wrote:StormRider wrote:I wouldn't call the pictured rigs highly modified, your talking about less than $4k in suspension modifications and wheels. Now this is highly modified :)
Not to quibble, bicker, or otherwise disgree but for me 4K in suspension mods equals "highly modified" (or at least my checking balance would be highly modified after writing the checks). I'd like to understand and appreciate what constitutes highly modified in your book.
Really talking about different worlds here.
boxcar wrote:Actualy Paul is partialy correct. Independent suspension does help the on road ride. (Not a bad thing) But it's the offroad articulation that I was refering to. Leaf spring suspensions are not capable of the same type or rainge of articulation that a well designed independent system is.
boxcar wrote:Stock leaf spring vs. stock independent.Try Jeep yj vs Hummer in stock format. The Hummer has a ton more articulation, A TON
boxcar wrote:Not to mention that $4000 will buy you eather Jeep in stock format. I call that highly modded....
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