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Postby Geron » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:55 pm

I'm using this hinge for both hatch and doors

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Because it is soft I plan to use aluminum bar on top of it to keep it from dimpling.

But, because it doesn't have a "rain gutter" like the hurricane. I plan to put angle (3/4 x 1/2?) on the cabin side. the vertical leg would be toward the middle of the hinge where it bends. (edited) [on second thought the vertical leg could be positioned either way -- toward the hatch or toward the cabin] This would catch the run off from the cabin and divert it to the sides of the tear. Think that is necessary since the hinge is already "waterproof"?

Also, this hinge should extend past the edge 1/2 inch like the hurricane, right?

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Postby Airspeed » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:12 pm

I have seen this type of hinge on a friends tool box,I dont know where he got it but it broke the first time he opened it on a cold day. Does this one have any kind of guarantee? I would be afraid it wouldnt last long,unless this one is special? Aaron
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Postby Arne » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:45 pm

There was another hinge mentioned from Australia that looks better (and is available from Canada)... I don't have the link anymore..lost it when my h/d crashed... but maybe somone else can post it.. looked a lot more rugged...

The flat hinge pictured would need something to keep it from puckering when screwed down.
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Re: Plastic hatch hinge questions

Postby Steve_Cox » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:47 pm

Geron wrote:I'm using this hinge for both hatch and doors

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Because it is soft I plan to use aluminum bar on top of it to keep it from dimpling.

But, because it doesn't have a "rain gutter" like the hurricane. I plan to put angle (3/4 x 1/2?) on the cabin side. the vertical leg would be toward the middle of the hinge where it bends. (edited) [on second thought the vertical leg could be positioned either way -- toward the hatch or toward the cabin] This would catch the run off from the cabin and divert it to the sides of the tear. Think that is necessary since the hinge is already "waterproof"?

Also, this hinge should extend past the edge 1/2 inch like the hurricane, right?

Geron


Hi Geron,

I didn't find it necessary to put in a water deflector on the plastic hinge since it is one continuous piece not two pieces like aluminum hinges. I used strips of oak sealed with silicone, aluminum will work even better. My hinge has been in service for over a year with no signs of failure so far. Got it at Mcmaster.com too.

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Postby madjack » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:08 pm

Airspeed wrote:I have seen this type of hinge on a friends tool box,I dont know where he got it but it broke the first time he opened it on a cold day. Does this one have any kind of guarantee? I would be afraid it wouldnt last long,unless this one is special? Aaron


Aaron, this is apparently something different...goto McMaster,com and look up their plastic "living" hinge...it has ben used/proved by a few people here on hatches for at least a year or two with no signs of failure...after testimony here and a test we ran ourselves, we are switching over toit as well...
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Postby sdtripper2 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:12 pm

Arne wrote:There was another hinge mentioned from Australia that looks better (and is available from Canada)... I don't have the link anymore..lost it when my h/d crashed... but maybe somone else can post it.. looked a lot more rugged...

The flat hinge pictured would need something to keep it from puckering when screwed down.


Arne:

Any of these ring a bell with your memory?

Plastic hinge UK & more thread
http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=11428
Albert Jagger = UK pdf
http://tnttt.com/viewto ... 933#143933
http://www.albert-jagger.co.uk/Portals/0/continuous.pdf

Another plastic hinge "Coop" (goldcoop) used a Monroe hinge
http://tinyurl.com/gnzr7

Same as above except for finding I have separated it out with the Aluminum.
Aluminum / Elastomer membrane hinge Albert Jagger UK supplier
http://www.albert-jagger.co.uk/Portals/0/continuous.pdf
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Postby Airspeed » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:23 pm

I will have to take a look at one, This type must be a much better quality than the one I saw. Thanks! Aaron
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Postby sdtripper2 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:26 pm

madjack wrote:
Airspeed wrote:I have seen this type of hinge on a friends tool box,I dont know where he got it but it broke the first time he opened it on a cold day. Does this one have any kind of guarantee? I would be afraid it wouldnt last long,unless this one is special? Aaron


Aaron, this is apparently something different...goto McMaster,com and look up their plastic "living" hinge...it has ben used/proved by a few people here on hatches for at least a year or two with no signs of failure...after testimony here and a test we ran ourselves, we are switching over toit as well...
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MJ:

Is this the one you seek or is there another that says plastic "living" hinge?:

McMaster-CARR products online
www.mcmaster.com (No direct link)

Harsh Environment Plastic Piano Hinge
Part Number 1588A73
1/8" Thickness, 2" Open Width $4.30 per Ft.
Temperature range is -40° to +180° F.
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Postby madjack » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:35 pm

...Steve, that is the one...the "living" designation is for a similar product from a different company...sorry for the mistake in name...we used it on the "BedRoll" and were suitably impressed enough to use it on the current build...
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Postby Airspeed » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:39 pm

Looks like a good option and the price is certainly right! I have eaten my words. Thanks! Aaron
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Postby sdtripper2 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:50 pm

madjack wrote:...Steve, that is the one...the "living" designation is for a similar product from a different company...sorry for the mistake in name...we used it on the "BedRoll" and were suitably impressed enough to use it on the current build...
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MJ:

Cause I was curious ... IC where others have used this Monroe living hinge:
And so think this is the beast you were thinking of?
Monroe Living Hinge = http://tinyurl.com/gnzr7 Like "Coop" (goldcoop) used
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Postby madjack » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:56 pm

...yup...but Monroe only sells it in 50' lengths............................... 8)
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Postby Arne » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:39 am

what distance do you put between the screws so you don't get 'pucker' with a hinge like that...?
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Postby Arne » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:42 am

I didn't see the link for the Canadian supplier above. did I miss it?
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Postby Geron » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:43 am

Arne wrote:what distance do you put between the screws so you don't get 'pucker' with a hinge like that...?


I'm thinking a piece of al bar on top of the hinge then screws ever couple inches????\

Actually never done this before. We'll see.

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