No Frame Trailer? Would this be safe?

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No Frame Trailer? Would this be safe?

Postby Bigwoods » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:59 pm

I was looking at Ebay and found these plans for a trailer that has the axle bolted to 3/4 ply? Any thoughts on this one?

He claims an incredible build time also.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 59328&rd=1

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Postby metoady » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:36 am

how safe :lol: :lol: :lol: :worship:
ok is this guy for real ... :roll:

i give this idea 3 thumbs down :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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Postby Woody » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:37 am

safe? :lol: :lol: :lol: my butt safe :lol: :lol: right and good luck
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Postby madjack » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:44 am

...it could be acceptable if the tongue ran all the way back and connected to the axle. The rest of the technique would result in a quick, dirty throw away that could be fixed with a composite floor of some sort..esentially all this guy did was cut out a tear shaped box and bolted it up...there is no way this could hold up over a long period of heavy usage and no way, built as descibed could it be safe IMNSHO
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Postby Michael W » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:57 am

I wouldn't want to be on the road at the same time as this trailer. I can see it hitting a bump and the tounge breaking free of its 3/4 inch plywood mounting bolts. Imaging a fully loaded teardrop body tumbling into you lane at 70 MPH. It might be safe at a 4th of July parade speed. I hope the e-bay buying public does not take these plans seriously.
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Postby Cutterpup » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:16 am

Most States require lights, fenders, safety chains. Call for an inspection, the inspector will come to your house and inspect your trailer for a $25.00 fee and give you a VIN number so you can get a Trailer Title and License Plates.


So in Tennessee you can call someone to come to your location and inspect the trailer issue a vin number for $25.00.

Build your Tear Drop camper on a flat bed utility trailer that already has a title and there is no need for an inspection to get License Plates.

I would like to know what this guy is smoking I haven't had anything that good in years!

I looked at his feedback on Ebay the one that got me was

The item was promptly shipped. The plans were found to be unsafe and useless.

Reply by scientificsupply: Buyers email said, I am not capable of building this project. Unfair feedback




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Postby mikeschn » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:20 am

Here's an example of what can happen when you bolt the axle directly to the body...

This is a photo of the Boxter upside down with the axle ripped off...

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Re: No Frame Trailer? Would this be safe?

Postby TomS » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:31 am

Bigwoods wrote:I was looking at Ebay and found these plans for a trailer that has the axle bolted to 3/4 ply? Any thoughts on this one?

He claims an incredible build time also.


It's like any other endeavor in life, I suppose. You get out of it what you put into it. Do you want a really nice camper that takes several months to build? Or, do you want an uninsulated plywood box that you slapped together in two weekends? I think I know how most of the folks on this forum would answer that question.

I'd be curious to see how he's attaching that plywood floor to the toung.
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Postby Nitetimes » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:44 am

I wouldn't trust it.
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Postby ALAN GEDDES » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:15 am

This could get a lot of people hurt or dead. I wonder what kind of disclaimer he has for when the law suits start ?
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Postby Woody » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:59 am

Alan,
It's called WHO ME? He'll vanish faster than donut in a cop car
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Postby DANL » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:29 pm

I think this line lifted from his promo text pretty much says it all about the idea of bolting the axle to the plywood floor.


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Postby angib » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:40 pm

mikeschn wrote:Here's an example of what can happen when you bolt the axle directly to the body...

But..... impressively, the photo Mike showed is what the trailer looked like after being dragged down the road on its belly at 60mph. Does anyone else think their trailer can withstand this? However, failing to fix the axle on properly was indeed stupid.

I don't think building a frameless trailer is something for a novice to do, but if anyone thinks it can't be done safely, I can tell that they don't know much about structural engineering!

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Postby An Ol Timer » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:29 pm

I think that you guys may be a little harsh in your judgement. He might have something going here. Heck!, Who knows he may be a descendent of Howie!!!
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Postby Jiminsav » Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:41 pm

man, you guys are tough on a mountain man..i have played with the idea of bolting the axle on to wood and have found out that TORSION axles ain't gona do it..they like a stiff surface..however, IF you double up 2 sheets of ¾ plywood and use regular spring mount axles, I bet it would last as long as steel if not longer..the reason I say this..there are a buttload of old trailers around rural Georgia that have spring shackles bolted right to wooden boxes with a pipe tongue held on with U-bolts in front and they still use them daily out there..i seen it..i'll preach it..amen brother.
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