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Postby Steve Frederick » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:27 pm

Anyone know how to do a drop down /false front for a drawer slider? I need to drop a false drawer front, and pull out a flat drawer with a stove on it.
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Postby Chris C » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:40 pm

Steve,

I've had to do that for several small computer desks. Just put a piano hinge along the bottom of the drawer and back of drawer front. Make sure the front edge of the drawer bottom is hardwood and at least 1/2" thick. Then put a push type latch on the top of the drawer front. It's really easy to do.
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Postby Steve Frederick » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:00 pm

Chris C wrote:Steve,

I've had to do that for several small computer desks. Just put a piano hinge along the bottom of the drawer and back of drawer front. Make sure the front edge of the drawer bottom is hardwood and at least 1/2" thick. Then put a push type latch on the top of the drawer front. It's really easy to do.

Thanx Chris!
Rough day, not too sharp!! Got a picture, or sketch?
How would I do that to leave the "drawer front" at the face-frame, with the "drawer" passing over it!
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Postby Chris C » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:03 pm

You can't! It has to be attached to the drawer and slide out with it. Sorry, I don't have a scanner, so I can't draw you a picture. And I couldn't begin to draw it with a computer program. :lol:
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Postby Chris C » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:06 pm

Wait a minute, Steve. I think you might be able to incorporate a Blum hinge..........you know, like they use on face-frameless cabinets. Depending on how much room you have, you might try that. Many different styles of those............available through Rocklers catalog.
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Postby madjack » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:30 pm

...also checkout Lee Valley Hardware............................ 8)
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Postby sdtripper2 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:46 pm

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Steve I found 3 choices or selections for your choosing. Then you can find the best price closer to you after you decide.
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To understand what I think you are looking for is something like this pull out drawer shown in the first example.

Cutting board hidden and drawer http://tinyurl.com/zytf3

They suggest to add this for door front:
Add hinges, such as Variable Overlay Decorative Hinges, http://tinyurl.com/kewp7 opening of 90°
(sold separately) to turn the drawer front into a drop-front for easy access.

I also found two more solutions for the 90 degree flop down door facing.

Pivot Hinge for Sink Trays http://tinyurl.com/hskje adjustable opening of 45° to 90°
Peter Meier Inc. (PMI) says its pivot hinge for sink trays has precise movement

for smooth, tight operation. Its quiet spring design closes firmly and stays closed. Stiffening ribs provide extra stability and eliminate side play. Its low-profile design keeps hardware out of the way. The pivot hinge can be used in face frame or frameless cabinets, and it doubles KCMA life-cycle standard for cabinet door hinges, says PMI. A Euro hinge also is available for mounting tip-out trays. It is nickel plated and has an adjustable opening of 45° to 90°.


Drop down hinge http://tinyurl.com/l25gm opening of 90°


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Postby Larwyn » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:57 pm

Chris C wrote:You can't! It has to be attached to the drawer and slide out with it. Sorry, I don't have a scanner, so I can't draw you a picture. And I couldn't begin to draw it with a computer program. :lol:


Aww, come on now, don't tell me I can't. I don't need one but if you tell me it cannot be done I'll waste a whole weekend trying to prove that I can............ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby asianflava » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:08 pm

Sounds like the job for some kind of euro hinge. Maybe one for an inset door so that it will pull away from the face frame.
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Postby Chris C » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:20 pm

sdtripper2 wrote:

Drop down hinge
http://tinyurl.com/l25gm opening of 90°




Steve, this one looks like it'll do what you're wanting.

(So, Larwin, you're right!) :lol:
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Postby toypusher » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:13 pm

Steve,

I was going to suggest Rockler, but I see someone already did.
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Postby Sonetpro » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:58 pm

Something like this?
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Postby Steve Frederick » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:56 pm

While in the shop today, I played around with some scrap and a bit of piano hinge...I think it will work!
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The longer section represents the rail, just below the slide-out stove drawer.
I'll be working out the real set-up, tomorrow.
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Postby bledsoe3 » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:06 am

Steve, Do you have one of those false drawer fronts under your sink that folds down to hold your drain plug and sponge? The only thing that keeps it from dropping down is the plastic piece that holds you sponge and stopper. Those hinges might work.
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Postby Mullet » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:01 am

If you don't mind the drawer face being split, you could use a bin hinge for the top portion of the face (this opens--but not all the way, and locks in place) or your piano hinge if you need more clearance to get the stove out. The bottom part of the face would be attached to the drawer bottom.

Splitting the drawer face will allow the top part to be dropped down once the stove is pulled out so that you don't have to go chasing the errant can of green beans that gets knocked into the cabinet. This assumes that your drawer has short sides for accessability to the stove.
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